Episode 90
Episode 90: Critters, Coffee, Chambers and Chatter
The primary focus of this podcast episode is the recent electoral outcomes and their implications for the future governance of both local and national entities. We delve into the results of the Wichita Falls elections, highlighting the victories and notable contests that have established a new council, while also acknowledging the broader national context surrounding the presidential race. During our discussion, we reflect on the significance of voter turnout and the essential role that every single vote plays in shaping the political landscape. Furthermore, we analyze the evolving perspectives of the electorate, particularly among minority groups, and how these shifts may influence future campaigns and policies. As we navigate through these topics, we aim to provide our audience with a comprehensive understanding of the current political climate and its potential trajectory.
The Trio talks Electricritters and River Bend Nature Center, 8th Street Coffee House, an upcoming Chamber event and more.
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Get It Right Texoma
- Riverbend Nature Center
- Wichita Falls Chamber
- A Street Coffee House
- Halliburton
- CarMax
- Eddie Hills Fun Cycles
- MacTech Solutions
- Lollie and Pops Sweet Shop
Links referenced in this episode:
Takeaways:
- In this episode, we explore the significance of local elections and their impact on community governance.
- The hosts discuss various upcoming events in Wichita Falls, particularly the Electric Critters event at Riverbend Nature Center.
- We emphasize the importance of subscribing to our YouTube channel for updates and short snippets of episodes.
- The conversation touches on the recent election results, highlighting the close races in city council positions and their implications.
- A key discussion revolves around the differing perspectives on national versus local issues, particularly in election contexts.
- The hosts reflect on the evolving nature of political affiliations and voter demographics in contemporary elections.
'Get it Right Texoma' presents a compelling episode that intricately weaves together local events, political insights, and cultural commentary, as articulated by hosts Trey Sralla, Terry McAdams, and Mike Hendren. The episode opens with an enthusiastic endorsement of the 'Electric Critters' event at the Riverbend Nature Center, a beloved tradition that showcases an enchanting display of lights and animatronics. The hosts urge the community to participate, emphasizing the joy and festive spirit that this event brings to the region, thereby reinforcing the podcast's commitment to promoting local culture and engagement.
As the dialogue unfolds, the conversation takes a serious turn towards the recent elections, where the hosts analyze the implications of the electoral outcomes for Wichita Falls. They celebrate the triumphs of candidates such as Whitney Flack and Robert Brooks, while also discussing the competitive nature of the at-large council race, which has advanced to a runoff. Through this analysis, the hosts highlight the significance of voter participation and the impact of local governance on everyday life. Their discussion serves as a reminder of the power of civic engagement and the necessity for community members to remain informed and involved in the political process.
In addition to the electoral discourse, the hosts also delve into the local dining scene, focusing on a newly popular street coffee house. This segment not only showcases the establishment's diverse offerings but also highlights the importance of supporting local businesses, creating a sense of community pride. The episode culminates in a rich tapestry of local insights, cultural commentary, and political analysis, exemplifying the podcast's mission to inform, educate, and delight its audience with relevant and engaging content.
Transcript
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Speaker A: y heavy thinking to do before: Speaker B:Hey.
Speaker B:Welcome to another episode of Get a Ride Texoma with the Trio.
Speaker B:Mike Hendren, Terry McAdams, Trey Serala.
Speaker B:We are thrilled to have you with us.
Speaker B:We get together here to inform you, entertain you, educate you, even, and hopefully delight you.
Speaker B:Oh, yes, delight.
Speaker B:I like that word.
Speaker B:I don't know if anybody would look at any one of us and associate.
Speaker A:The word delight, but anyway, I would.
Speaker B:Terry, maybe, but me or you?
Speaker A:Suave hair.
Speaker B:He's got the best hair of the.
Speaker B:Of the trio.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:By the way, when did.
Speaker A:How young.
Speaker A:Because you're not that old.
Speaker A:When did you start going gray?
Speaker A:How old were you when you.
Speaker C:Oh, gosh.
Speaker A:Were you an early gray guy?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You see him across probably 30s.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I have to look back a little bit.
Speaker A:You just seem like one of those guys who went gray young.
Speaker C:Yeah, my mom, same thing.
Speaker C:And my, my whole family on her side were early grayers, I guess.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't, you know, I don't know.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:Trying to remember when I.
Speaker B:Of course, I've got more gray in my.
Speaker B:My goatee.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's how I am too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:My hair and my hair.
Speaker B:But my hair started thinning out probably 10 years ago.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, my son, I love him, but he.
Speaker B:He got to.
Speaker B:He got to where he just started shaving his head.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:He's like, I'm not going to mess with this.
Speaker A:Sometimes that happens.
Speaker B:Start taking a razor to it, you know.
Speaker B:And a couple of Christmases ago, we bought him this.
Speaker B:This really cool razor.
Speaker B:You kind of hold it in your hand like this and you just rub it over your head.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he thought that was the greatest thing in the world.
Speaker B:You got a skull shaver, you know, or love it turned.
Speaker B:Yeah, he really.
Speaker B:He was.
Speaker B:It was like, I thought he was going to cry on me or something.
Speaker B:I swear, he loved it so much.
Speaker B:Anyway, no, he's a good kid.
Speaker B:He just got married.
Speaker A:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:We just had.
Speaker B:Had that.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Anyway, life changes, man.
Speaker B:We got a lot to talk about here.
Speaker B:And before we get started, though, do visit our website, get it right texoma.com also check us out on Facebook.
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Speaker A:Because.
Speaker A:Because not only do we drop episodes on there, we have shorts and stuff like that.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:So interesting little tidbits of episodes.
Speaker A:So in case you don't have time to watch a whole episode, but you want to see something that may entertain you or inform you or something like that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Little shorts that are like usually less than a minute long.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, you know, if you can't stand 30 minutes or more and maybe you can stand two.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:Anyway, let's get on with it here because we got a lot to talk about.
Speaker B:This is going to be a busy show.
Speaker B:Electric critters coming up November 29th through December 21st.
Speaker B:Friday and Saturday nights each week from 6:30 to 8:30 at Riverbend Nature Center.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And this is an event they've been doing for a long time.
Speaker B:I don't know how many years they've been doing this.
Speaker A:Lots and lots of lights, lots and lots of animatronics and stuff like.
Speaker A:That's really cool.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So basically you walk their trails, you know, and they have all this stuff.
Speaker B:Stuff set up.
Speaker B:It's really cool.
Speaker B:And you can go to their website if you just look for Riverbend Nature.
Speaker B:Just Google Riverbend Nature center and you'll find their.
Speaker B:Their website.
Speaker A:And by the way, get involved.
Speaker A:If you've never been to Riverbend Nature center, it's a great place to go.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker A:Is it just to check out.
Speaker A:Not even during Electric Critters, but just go on a Saturday or Sunday or something like that.
Speaker A:It's a really neat slice of the outdoors right here in.
Speaker A:In Wichita Falls.
Speaker B:It sure is.
Speaker B:It really is really cool.
Speaker B:And they've been around for many years now.
Speaker B:And it's a.
Speaker B:It just.
Speaker B:It seems to get a little bit better with age.
Speaker B:It really does.
Speaker B:So anyway, that's coming up again November 29th through December 21st, Friday and Saturday nights at 6:30-8:30 at Riverbend Nature Center.
Speaker B:Then coming up, December 4th, Wichita Falls Chamber presents the Small Business Series.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:This is something you need to register for.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Got to sign up for it.
Speaker B:I think there is a cost associated with it.
Speaker A:There might be, but that's the reason why we wanted to put it out early so people can register on it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But these are.
Speaker A:They have several different topics.
Speaker A:If you go on the Wichita Falls Chamber website.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:You'll see what topics are going to be covered during this time and see if it's something that would be interesting or informative to you.
Speaker B:And I think you will find it interesting and Informative and educational.
Speaker B:Kind of like us.
Speaker B:So anyway, that's coming up December 4th, Wichita Falls Chamber again.
Speaker B:Just Google the Wichita Falls Chamber.
Speaker B:You'll find that information on that.
Speaker B:Each week we.
Speaker B:We try to focus on a local restaurant or each.
Speaker B:I said week again, didn't I?
Speaker B:Each episode.
Speaker B:I don't know why.
Speaker B:I think we're weekly.
Speaker B:Maybe we are.
Speaker B:Anyway, each episode we try to focus on a locally owned restaurant.
Speaker B:And this time around, though, it's going to be a street coffee house.
Speaker B:Now, I don't know, you can get food there, but I don't know if you'd necessarily classify them as a restaurant more so than a coffee.
Speaker A:No, they.
Speaker A:They sell.
Speaker A:They have a whole sandwiches now.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:They're.
Speaker A:They're called a coffee house, but I think, I think.
Speaker A:Well, I don't know if there's more people that buy food than coffee, but if you go around there around lunchtime or something like that, there's almost food at every table.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:So, you know, they make sandwiches.
Speaker A:They're really good.
Speaker A:The sandwiches they make are really good.
Speaker A:Large variety of sandwiches are made there in house and so, so good stuff.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And if you, if you're into, you know, a variety of coffees, especially cold coffees and that kind of thing.
Speaker C:Yeah, obviously they'll make it happen.
Speaker A:I don't know because I don't, I don't eat, drink, I don't drink any of that stuff.
Speaker A:But I will say this.
Speaker B:He's strictly a scotch guy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, man, they got waffles.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker A:Apparently they have breakfast too.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Pumpkin waffles at that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You killed me on that.
Speaker C:Yeah, well, I don't know.
Speaker A:I just like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:But hey, I try that.
Speaker B:When did pumpkin become like the catch all ingredient for all this stuff?
Speaker A:Pumpkin and cranberries have hell of a good publicists because.
Speaker A:Because everything turned pumpkin a few years ago.
Speaker A:And then, and then cranberry showed up in every damn thing.
Speaker C:Well, it's probably Starbucks because maybe pumpkin spice latte or whatever.
Speaker B:Yo, here's the thing.
Speaker B:You know, when we were kids, all.
Speaker B:I remember, the only time you ever, ever even talked about pumpkin was pumpkin pie and pumpkin roll and making jack o'lanterns you know, to put out on the porch at Halloween or whatever.
Speaker B:That was it.
Speaker A:That was it.
Speaker B:Then all of a sudden, one day, there's pumpkin spice this and pumpkin waffles and pumpkin pancakes and pumpkin eggs and pumpkin.
Speaker A:Like I said, the National Pumpkin Institute had a hell of a press secretary there.
Speaker B:When you start serving pumpkin pork chops, we got a problem.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker C:Well, how about praline pecan French toast with bacon or sausage?
Speaker A:That looks good.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker A:Anyhow.
Speaker A:Yeah, a street coffee house.
Speaker A:They're on the corner of 8th and.
Speaker A:Because they've moved, they're across from the.
Speaker C:Chamber of the Hamilton Building.
Speaker B:Right across should be like 8th and Lamar.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Nathan Lamar.
Speaker A:Yeah, they were on 8th and Indiana at one time, and they moved down.
Speaker C:That was where they were originally.
Speaker A:Basically, it's where Wells.
Speaker A:Not Wells Fargo, Where a Fidelity bank used to have a.
Speaker A:A bank down there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And they've.
Speaker A:Right across from the chamber.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And they place.
Speaker B:I think they still utilize the drive through.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, there's.
Speaker A:There's a corner there, but it's nice and it is.
Speaker A:It is a neat place.
Speaker A:It's a nice place to sit downtown.
Speaker A:Like I said, the Hamilton building is right across the street there.
Speaker A:It's on a corner, and they got.
Speaker C:A nice little room in the back.
Speaker C:You could probably reserve it or.
Speaker C:I'm sure they work with you on events and stuff like that.
Speaker A:Pastry coffee house.
Speaker A:Go check them out.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Well, okay.
Speaker A:We're done.
Speaker A:Is that it?
Speaker A:Was there anything else?
Speaker C:Nah.
Speaker B:Yeah, it goes without saying.
Speaker A:Slow Newsweek, huh?
Speaker B:There was an election.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker C:A little election.
Speaker A:Let me tell you.
Speaker A:Let me tell you.
Speaker A:Be careful how you say that, Terry.
Speaker A:I will say, though, I'm glad it's over for the most part.
Speaker A:We'll talk about one.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker A:But the national election.
Speaker A:I am.
Speaker A:I am so sick to the back teeth on this damn national election.
Speaker B:Were your phones hammered?
Speaker C:Just text messages yesterday, day before.
Speaker B:I mean, Tuesday.
Speaker B:Seriously, I was getting like two and three a day, you know.
Speaker A:Oh, you mean to my people to.
Speaker C:Go out and vote and stuff?
Speaker A:Very little of that.
Speaker A:I knew that.
Speaker A:A lot of people did.
Speaker A:I got very little.
Speaker A:Must be off somebody's radar.
Speaker B:Somehow I ended up on a list somewhere.
Speaker B:I guess I was getting two and three a day.
Speaker B:Yeah, mostly fundraising text messages.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:From Kamala Harris.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker A:Because they identified you as a Harrison.
Speaker C:Identify as.
Speaker A:I got a friend who.
Speaker A:Who kept getting calling Allred messages, which, by the way.
Speaker A:Well, we'll.
Speaker A:We'll go in order here.
Speaker B:Okay, so let's start with the local stuff, because there is a few of these things to get into.
Speaker B:Wichita Fall city council race, I guess.
Speaker B:These are the winners.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Whitney Flack, District 1.
Speaker A:By the way, Whitney Flack's family, she's David Flack.
Speaker A:Is her father in law, and Allison Flack is her mother in law.
Speaker A:David and Allison both and David's father also all served on the Wichita Falls ISD board of trustees.
Speaker A:So the Flacks have a large.
Speaker A:The Flack family has a long history of public service in Wichita Falls.
Speaker A:It's really good family, and I'm sure Whitney's going to do a great job.
Speaker A:And real quickly, I know I don't want to be disparaging, but I.
Speaker A:I almost have to say this.
Speaker A:Her opponent, I almost tied him.
Speaker A:I think he got six votes.
Speaker B:Really.
Speaker A:So I didn't even run and I almost hide the guy.
Speaker B:I don't even know who it was.
Speaker A:Yeah, I don't either.
Speaker A:That was a shawl lacking.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was.
Speaker B:Robert Brooks wins in District 2.
Speaker A:Robert Brooks, father of Talia Brooks, our Olympian from Wichita.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:Who was recently at the Olympics.
Speaker B:And then we had the at large seat, which at large counselor basically represents everyone in the city.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Didn't mean it's a big dude.
Speaker A:It'd be a little guy, a woman or something.
Speaker B:And one of them is quite slender.
Speaker B:Anyway, it's good.
Speaker B:It's gone to a runoff now.
Speaker B:There were three where there were three.
Speaker A:Or four candidates or three candidates.
Speaker B:Three candidates.
Speaker A:Former counselor Larry Nelson from District 2, who obviously gave up his seat to run at the at large.
Speaker A:Austin Cobbins and Pack, which we've had Austin Cobb and Sam Pack both on.
Speaker A:Would had Larry on, but he never contacted us.
Speaker B:See?
Speaker B:See?
Speaker B:See?
Speaker B:So I'm just going to tell you.
Speaker C:Right now, both of them on and.
Speaker B:Being on this show benefits.
Speaker B:You do not underestimate the power of this podcast.
Speaker B:Ever.
Speaker B:It's a runoff now between Sam and Austin.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And Sam did win by 162 votes.
Speaker A:So if you don't think your vote counts, folks, right.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:Out of the whole entire city of Wichita Falls, because everybody who's a citizen of Wichita Falls was the treasure to vote.
Speaker A:Was able to vote for the city council position because it wasn't a district position.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:162 votes was all that separated these two.
Speaker A:Not that it's going to end up in the matter and at the end, because there'll still be a runoff.
Speaker A:But still, that's.
Speaker A:That's pretty impressive.
Speaker B:Had there not been a third candidate in this race, Sam would be the.
Speaker B:Would probably have won.
Speaker A:It depends on whether Larry pulled Austin or Sam votes.
Speaker A:Because Larry had over 2,000 votes, you know, again.
Speaker B:Yeah, it does.
Speaker B:But this is the thing, y'all.
Speaker B:Like he said, every Vote matters.
Speaker B:Every vote matters.
Speaker B:So we'll have a runoff, which I'm assuming will be.
Speaker B:There's a time frame for.
Speaker A:Yeah, I don't know what it is.
Speaker A:I'm sure it's going to be pretty close.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was never involved in a runoff.
Speaker B:But I want to say January, but I may be wrong about that.
Speaker A:I'm going to.
Speaker A:And I'm going to say this in.
Speaker A:Both guys have been on the.
Speaker A:On the program, and I've told both these.
Speaker A:These guys this personally.
Speaker A:I, I've.
Speaker A:I was messaging back and forth with them both on election night and, and stuff like that.
Speaker A:These are two really good people.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:I would like to at some point see both of these guys on city council.
Speaker B:Either one of them is going to make a great.
Speaker A:Make a good counselor.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But I think I would like to see both of these guys on city council.
Speaker A:I know they both can't sit in this seat at this time.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:But at some point, if whoever does not.
Speaker A:Whoever does not prevail in this, I would hope that that person would.
Speaker A:Whenever their district seat comes up, runs for their district seat or something.
Speaker A:Both of these are really good dudes.
Speaker B:So, you know, I think given the makeup of the council that we have now with, with Whitney and Robert Brooks and Sam or Austin, either one, we got a.
Speaker B:Wichita Falls.
Speaker B:Got a really good council.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then also you with the people that are there now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, we got a really good council coming on here.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And I think it's going to.
Speaker A:Jeff is still on there.
Speaker B:Jeff is still there.
Speaker A:Mike is still there.
Speaker A:Mike, back to Leongo.
Speaker B:Tim Short is our mayor.
Speaker B:And, And Mike.
Speaker B:And so, I mean, it's going to be.
Speaker B:I think some.
Speaker B:Some great things are going to happen moving forward.
Speaker B:I think we've got some people.
Speaker B:What I'm trying to say is we've got people on the Wichita Falls City Council now who I think are motivated and excited about carrying this city forward.
Speaker A:I totally agree with you.
Speaker A:I think that's right.
Speaker B:I think they're motivated and excited about it.
Speaker A:And Sam or Austin, either one.
Speaker A:Whoever does prevail, will.
Speaker A:Will help with that.
Speaker A:I think they'll.
Speaker A:They'll fit right into that.
Speaker B:Totally.
Speaker B:Totally.
Speaker B:Wichita County.
Speaker B:Barry Mahler won his commissioner seat with 70.98% of the vote.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Former City Councilor DeAndre Chenault ran against him and Barry.
Speaker A:But Barry, you know, Barry's been in district, that district, that county precinct.
Speaker A:See, District, It's a precinct.
Speaker A:He's been the county commissioner for a lot of years.
Speaker A:Very well Liked good.
Speaker A:Very good county commissioner, by the way.
Speaker B:And very well known, very, very popular.
Speaker A:And did real well.
Speaker B:Yeah, he did.
Speaker B:City View had a school bond issue on their ballot and it failed, which I think comes as no real shock to anybody.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think it failed.
Speaker A:Wasn't about by two thirds.
Speaker B:Yeah, it was a big margin.
Speaker B:It was a big margin.
Speaker B:School bond elections are getting tougher and tougher to do.
Speaker B:I think statewide they're getting tougher to do.
Speaker B:And it all goes back to taxes.
Speaker B:It all goes back to, of course, your school portion of your taxes is.
Speaker B:The biggest portion of your property tax bill is school taxes.
Speaker B:It's split between two elements.
Speaker B:You've got your interest in sinking INS&M and O, and then M and O, maintenance and operation budget.
Speaker B:And by law, those have to be separated out.
Speaker B:And so when you do these bond issues, whatever that tax is, that's going to be applied to pay a bond.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:I almost wish we'd get away from using the word bond.
Speaker B:All a bond is is a daggum loan.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker A:It's borrowing money.
Speaker A:It's the d.
Speaker A:It's the district, the government entity.
Speaker A:Could be a school district, could be his county, could be a city, whatever.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:It's the government entity ability to borrow money.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:They're selling bonds.
Speaker A:They're not going to the bank and borrowing money.
Speaker A:They didn't go show up to see Mr.
Speaker A:Drysdale.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:That's an old reference, if you.
Speaker A:Yeah, got that one, Mr.
Speaker A:Drysdale.
Speaker A:At the bank.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:To get a loan, they go out to the taxpayer or to the general public and say, we like to sell bonds.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then the public buys those bonds and that money goes into the school district.
Speaker A:The school district.
Speaker A:That's how they get their.
Speaker A:The money.
Speaker A:And then over time, the school district pays those bonds back with a certain percent of interest.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker B:The fact of the matter is, if you're going to do a construction project, you know, build a new school, remodel multiple facilities.
Speaker B:Now, City View is a small district within the city of Wichita Falls.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker B:They have the high school, junior high, high school combined in one facility, and then the elementary school up the street, which has been there since the.
Speaker B:Probably the 19.
Speaker C:Oh, that's what they wanted to do.
Speaker A:Is build a new 50s or 60s.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:They wanted to build a new elementary school, according to their website.
Speaker C:And it was going to be, depending on the value of your house, between $45 a year increase up to $270.
Speaker C:An increase.
Speaker C:And that's up for a house between 125,000 and 250,000 and 250,000 in value.
Speaker A:Which probably is probably the top of the end.
Speaker A:I mean there may be some houses that are over 250 on City View, but there's a few, probably not very many.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:And there's probably not a lot of houses that are under the hundred.
Speaker A:And was it 150,000, 125,000.
Speaker A:If you're, if you're 100,000 towards the bottom end.
Speaker A:City View as well.
Speaker A:So that's.
Speaker A:Whoever came up with this, this graph probably did a really good job at looking to see what housing was.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Where the top is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:100.
Speaker B:I can tell you as a real estate agent, I can tell you in that area, $125,000 home there.
Speaker A:Real estate agent who grew up middle class family.
Speaker B:Yes, I did.
Speaker A:Go ahead.
Speaker B:Yes, I did indeed.
Speaker B:$125,000 home there is basically, it's a rental property, it's an investment property.
Speaker B:Most of those homes that fall in that 125 to $150,000 range are purchased by individuals who are then turning around.
Speaker B:They rehab them and then they rent them out.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:When you get above the 200,000 mark, most of those are going to be, not all of them, but most of those are going to be homeowner occupied, you know, the owner, owner, occupant type homes.
Speaker B:There are a few that are above that 250 threshold.
Speaker B:You got a few, they're in the 270, 280, 300.
Speaker B:Not very many.
Speaker A:There's not very many.
Speaker B:Not very many.
Speaker A:Small district.
Speaker A:The bond failed.
Speaker A:So next time.
Speaker B:Yeah, I heard a rumor that they're going to retool the bond.
Speaker B:They're going to bring it back, but they don't know if it's going to be in the spring or the fall of next year.
Speaker B:They don't know yet.
Speaker B:This is just what I've been told, that they're going to retool that and they're going to come back to the, to the draw.
Speaker A:Well, the need still exists.
Speaker B:Well, sure.
Speaker A:So, so yes.
Speaker A:I mean, and that's, that's generally what happens.
Speaker A:School districts will go out.
Speaker A:I was involved as a, as a former school board member who grew up in a middle class family.
Speaker A:I have some experience with this.
Speaker A:And that's what happens a lot of times.
Speaker A:You go out, you come up with what you, what you, your need.
Speaker A:You go out to the public and say, okay, this is what we really need to do this project and the public says yay or nay.
Speaker A:And if they say nay, well, the need doesn't go away.
Speaker A:You still, you still.
Speaker A:The facility need is still there, so you have to retool.
Speaker A:Okay, what can we cut?
Speaker A:Because obviously that's not going to work.
Speaker A:So what can we cut?
Speaker A:What can we change to make this more palatable for the public?
Speaker C:Well, let me throw this out real quick.
Speaker C:One last thought on this.
Speaker C:How much did the issues that came up at City View in the last year have anything to do with the trust?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't think that it's been the last year.
Speaker A:I think that was two or three years ago.
Speaker C:Was that that long ago already?
Speaker B:Yeah, it's been a couple years ago.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Or whatever.
Speaker C:But that's still.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't know what percentage that would have.
Speaker B:Just based on the individuals that I know that I'm in contact with personally that live in that area.
Speaker B:I will tell you that for some of them, yes, it was.
Speaker B:It had an impact.
Speaker B:For some of them, it did.
Speaker A:But whether it was two thirds of the people, probably not.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, there was probably something.
Speaker B:You could be talking a few hundred people, you could be talking a couple thousand people, I don't know.
Speaker B:But, but you're talking.
Speaker B:I mean, they're, they're a fairly, fairly large population over there.
Speaker B:Their district boundaries do extend, you know, down toward US 277.
Speaker B:So they're fairly large district.
Speaker B:And so you got quite a few people there.
Speaker C:Well, 921 said no.
Speaker C:And 471.
Speaker C: , almost: Speaker B:And let me, and let me tell you something, too.
Speaker B: whole hell of a lot more than: Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:There's a lot of people didn't vote.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:Well, and again, to quote Barack Obama, elections have consequences.
Speaker B:Yes, they do.
Speaker B:And when people don't turn out for an election, one side or the other is going to be mad because their side didn't get the win.
Speaker B:And a lot of times it comes down to sheer numbers.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Sheer numbers.
Speaker B:It's just, how did you get enough people mobilized and motivated to get off their backside and go vote?
Speaker A:Well, and I think that's what happened in Wichita Falls with the two new high schools.
Speaker A:There was a lot of people out there who.
Speaker A:There was a lot of people.
Speaker A:You always have.
Speaker A:People are going to vote against, no for any bond.
Speaker A:It doesn't matter if Jesus Christ told them to Vote for a bond.
Speaker A:They're going to vote no.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:It just, it is what it is.
Speaker A:And you're going to have some people that are going to vote for every bond, which is a small, I think a much smaller percentage going to vote for every bond because they believe in, in, in that, in that sort of thing.
Speaker A:But then you have all that huge group in the middle.
Speaker A:And I think what happened during the Wichita Falls ISD2 schools.
Speaker A:I know what happened was a lot of parents, younger parents who were like, look, my kids are going to be utilizing these facilities or people who had young grand.
Speaker A:Grandparents had younger grandkids.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker A:And those people are the ones that got out and got motivated and voted.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Archer County.
Speaker B:Jordan Baron one County attorney and Holiday.
Speaker B:Now you can sell booze in Holiday.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A: that is a strange holdout in: Speaker B:Oh, very much.
Speaker A:To not be able to sell alcohol.
Speaker C:Well, remember Henrietta or not Henrietta, but Clay county was dry for.
Speaker C:And guess what?
Speaker C:The comalies in Jolly Truck Stop actually pushed to get this going.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker C:And it came and boom.
Speaker B:This is the other thing that always struck me as so strange.
Speaker B:A liquor store cannot be open on Sunday in Texas and you must close by 9pm Monday through Saturday.
Speaker B:But I can go to a bar seven nights a week and get hammered till two in the morning or at.
Speaker A:Nine o'clock in the morning.
Speaker A:You can go in the morning.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I mean I used to, I used to work with a group of people long time ago that would.
Speaker B:There was a little bar over off a Caulfield in that area somewhere.
Speaker B:I can't remember what it was now.
Speaker B:And they, you know, we would, we worked overnights at.
Speaker B:I'll tell you what, we work at Walmart overnights, unloading trucks.
Speaker B:I worked there for a short time doing that years and years ago.
Speaker B:And I never went along with them because I may not have even been old enough to drink at that point.
Speaker B:May not have been 21 yet.
Speaker B:But they would leave there.
Speaker B:They get off at 7 in the morning.
Speaker B:They'd go over to IHOP and have breakfast and then they go to this bar at about 9 o'clock and sit over and drink beer until lunchtime.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But I can't go to a liquor store on Sunday afternoon after church and get a bottle of something and go back to my house.
Speaker A:Well, and I'm not complaining about this.
Speaker A:I can't be open on Sundays and Saturdays.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:I have to be closed one day a week.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And but it could be.
Speaker C:You could be closed on Saturday to be open on Sunday.
Speaker A:That's what I just said.
Speaker A:I can't be closed on.
Speaker A:I can't be open Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker B:You can't operate seven days a week.
Speaker C:But is that.
Speaker A:You can't even.
Speaker A:No, but you can't all.
Speaker A:You can't.
Speaker A:You have to be closed on Saturday or Sunday as well.
Speaker A:It's not just seven days a week.
Speaker A:You can't say, I'm going to close on Tuesday and Wednesday or.
Speaker A:Or Thursday and Wednesday.
Speaker A:No, it.
Speaker A:You have to be closed at least Sunday or at least Saturday.
Speaker C:But historically, isn't that the automobile dealers association in Texas that really kind of put either got that on the books for the law.
Speaker C:I read.
Speaker C:I did a.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:I had.
Speaker A:They fought it.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:The automobile been fighting.
Speaker A:Well, would you.
Speaker A:If you're a car lot, would you rather be open seven days a week?
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:I had.
Speaker C:Like I said, I had looked at it and I'll look it up again.
Speaker A:I don't want to be open seven days a week, to be honest with you.
Speaker A:But car dealership choice.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:And CarMax, I believe it's.
Speaker A:CarMax is one of the big people, one of the big nationwide companies that has automobile dealerships in Texas.
Speaker A:They fought this for.
Speaker A:I think it was about.
Speaker A:They fought it in the courts about five years ago.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they stayed open on Sundays and they ended up having to pay.
Speaker A:They lost in courts.
Speaker A:That was upheld.
Speaker A:They end up having to pay.
Speaker A:I forgot the amount of money.
Speaker A:It was an enormous amount of money.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Fines.
Speaker A:Because they had to go back and pay all the fines for that and all the taxes.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Proof that Google reads our minds.
Speaker C:I typed why our car dealer and it finished.
Speaker C:Closed on Sunday and said closed on.
Speaker A:Well, it's.
Speaker A:But it's an old.
Speaker A:It's an old thing of the blue laws because used to be department stores couldn't be open on Sundays.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The only place.
Speaker A:Or Saturdays and Sundays.
Speaker A:The only place at Wichita Falls was Treasure City.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:That was open on Sundays and it was owned by Jewish people is what I heard.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Who went to Sabbath, went to synagogue on.
Speaker A:On Saturday.
Speaker B:Saturday.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Did they make a deal or something and got.
Speaker A:What's the deal?
Speaker A:They could be.
Speaker A:You could be open or Saturday or Sunday.
Speaker C:Oh, they were choice.
Speaker A:They were open on.
Speaker A:But every would.
Speaker A:Everybody would close on Sundays.
Speaker A:The malls would be closed on Sundays.
Speaker A:You drive out by the mall or Kmart parking lot and there'd be go karts and all kinds of stuff out There, because that was.
Speaker A:Nobody was going to be there.
Speaker B:Do y'all remember the first iteration of Chick Fil a in Wichita Falls?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:In the mall.
Speaker B:It was in Saxetter Mall.
Speaker B:It was closed court.
Speaker C:They were closed.
Speaker B:And they closed.
Speaker B:They've always closed on Sunday.
Speaker B:And they went to battle with.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They moved into the mall.
Speaker B:They got lured into moving into the mall.
Speaker B:And then the mall ownership got mad at the.
Speaker B:At the franchise owner at that time because they would not open on Sunday.
Speaker B:Said it's corporate policy.
Speaker B:We do not operate on Sunday.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:But that had to do.
Speaker C:They got their contract before the malls started requiring you to be open.
Speaker C:And so they had those usually long term contracts.
Speaker C:And so then when it came up renewal, they said, hey.
Speaker C:And that's when Chick Fil a said, now we're out of here.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so they left.
Speaker B:And then for years, we didn't have a Chick Fil A in which falls until they built their own standalone store.
Speaker A:So anyhow.
Speaker A:But that's.
Speaker A:Those are old blue laws.
Speaker A:I agree.
Speaker A:It's kind of crazy.
Speaker A:But anyhow, all that is, you could sell.
Speaker A:They'll be able to sell alcohol in holiday Texas.
Speaker B:Now, James Frank and David Spiller, both of whom, by the way, have been guests on this show.
Speaker B:I'm just saying.
Speaker A:Former show.
Speaker A:And they won handily.
Speaker B:They won very handily.
Speaker B:You're welcome.
Speaker A:Might have had nothing to do with.
Speaker A:They were both Republicans and all they had is Democrat.
Speaker B:No, it had everything to do with this show.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:And then Brett Hagenboo.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:That's not how you spell it, but that's how you say it.
Speaker B:Hagen Boo.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I was gonna say.
Speaker B:I knew the spelling wasn't.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:It looks like Bach or something.
Speaker A:So anyhow, he's.
Speaker A:He's now our state senator.
Speaker A:He basically took over.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:Drew who?
Speaker A:Drew Springer, who was a former guest on.
Speaker A:Not this show, but the radio show.
Speaker A:Drew had been in on this show.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Brett Hagen Boo.
Speaker A:Won against Jay Scarborough and.
Speaker A:And another group of people to win the Republican primary in the spring.
Speaker B:Drew was never a guest on this podcast and he's not there anymore.
Speaker A:Well, Drew.
Speaker A:Drew didn't run.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm trying.
Speaker B:I'm trying to make this.
Speaker A:Try to be.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Try to make us look better.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Anyway, so national.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So let's go.
Speaker B:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:The presidential race is obviously the big news now.
Speaker B:Trey made a prediction on this podcast that this was going to go one of two ways.
Speaker B:It was either going to be such a tight Squeaker that it was going to be so close between Harris and Trump that we might not know for weeks who the winner actually go to the courts.
Speaker B:It would have, might even have to go to the courts or it was going to be a runaway for Donald Trump.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:As of the recording of this podcast, I believe he's at now 292 electoral.
Speaker A:College votes and Arizona and Nevada are in play and they both look very strong.
Speaker B:This number can still go up.
Speaker B:He may break the 300 number which.
Speaker A:I, which I predicted a 300 break.
Speaker B:300 which would, I mean at this point he's at 295.
Speaker B:I beg your pardon.
Speaker A:So we've added some Alaska.
Speaker B:Alaska, which was kind of a given he was going to win Alaska.
Speaker A:Yeah, they just take a long time to count.
Speaker B:There are 538 electoral votes available and those are distributed among the states.
Speaker B:Texas has 40 electoral votes.
Speaker B:California I think has 54.
Speaker B:Pennsylvania has 19.
Speaker B:So each state, depending on it, has to do with population and number of electors and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker B:And in Texas the way it works is this.
Speaker B:If you win 50.1% of the popular vote, all 40 electoral votes are awarded to you, whoever meets that threshold.
Speaker B:I think California does it similarly.
Speaker B:I think it's a little, every state's a little bit different in how they distribute the understanding.
Speaker C:I was reading, reading an article the other day that all states except for Nebraska and Maine.
Speaker C:Maine, those they.
Speaker C:If you win the popular vote, you get 2 of the electoral votes or electoral.
Speaker A:Is it 2 or 1?
Speaker C:No, 2.
Speaker A:Both states or just Nebraska from what.
Speaker C:I read, I read the other day, then they said that then they have.
Speaker C:Nebraska has three additional ones, a total of five.
Speaker C:The other three are distributed among districts.
Speaker B:And this is, it depends on.
Speaker C:And then Maine has two additional ones and so then they divide those two up and that's why they have this NE1 and NE2.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:So those are broken up.
Speaker B:So you know, but all the states, we don't have a national, nationally conforming method of doing these elections.
Speaker B:Each state sets its own election rules and laws.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:And so every municipality does.
Speaker A:Yes, that's what I have a problem.
Speaker A:And I've said this for a long time, I now I don't believe in uniform election laws for municipalities and stuff like that.
Speaker A:Because as far as I'm concerned, the people that live in Portland, Oregon, if they want to say that you have to be a left handed juggler to be on the city council there, I don't give a shit.
Speaker A:I don't Live in Portland, Oregon, and it's not my business.
Speaker B:Do what you want to do.
Speaker A:But when it comes to national elections, state and below should be.
Speaker A:Should be whatever the state or the state wants to do.
Speaker A:But national elections, when it comes to, if you're electing anybody to Congress or the presidency, there should be a uniform election.
Speaker B:Well, and I, you know, I'm not, I'm not totally surprised by the results of the election, but I am a little bit.
Speaker B:And when you go to the map and you look at how the popular vote broke down, and you look where Trump won the popular vote, that map is a perfect illustration of why the Electoral College process is so important when it comes to a presidential election where the whole country has a voice in this one or these two individuals, president and vice president.
Speaker B:If we didn't have the Electoral College, all the major population centers of the country, Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston, Austin, San Francisco, all these major metro centers of the country, they would decide every presidential election.
Speaker B:Los Angeles County, I think it has a larger population than five or six US States combined.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Now think of, just put that in perspective.
Speaker B:That, that should put it in perspective.
Speaker A:That's one county.
Speaker A:It's a big county.
Speaker B:One county.
Speaker A:It's a big county physically, geographically, but it's not nearly as big as Montana, but it's got.
Speaker A:And Montana is one of those states.
Speaker A:Montana barely has a million people.
Speaker A:You could fit the fourth largest state in the country.
Speaker B:You could fit all of Montana's population into one little corner of LA County.
Speaker A:Yeah, it could be in Watts or something.
Speaker B:I don't know where, but yeah, you can fit them all in one corner.
Speaker B:So you have these large population centers.
Speaker B:And these large population centers for at least the last 60 or 70 years have traditionally been ruled by, overlorded by the Democratic Party.
Speaker A:That's a better way to say it.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:They control these large population centers.
Speaker B:If you didn't have the Electoral College, they would decide every presidential election.
Speaker B:The rest of the country.
Speaker B:You look at this map.
Speaker B:Look at Texas.
Speaker B:Yeah, we've got, there's a smattering.
Speaker B:You've got, got the, the deep southwestern corner of Texas there.
Speaker A:That's El Paso.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, that's, that's Big Ben.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker A:Nobody lives there.
Speaker B:Well, but it went blue.
Speaker B:Yeah, but you've got, you know, Houston metro, Austin metro, San Antonio metro, Dallas, Fort Worth metro.
Speaker B:That went.
Speaker A:Corpus Christi.
Speaker B:Saw they went solid.
Speaker B:No, solidly.
Speaker A:Valley.
Speaker A:This is the valley right down here.
Speaker A:Yeah, Hidalgo.
Speaker B:So you've got You've got, if you look at that map, if it were not for the Electoral College, the rest of just Texas.
Speaker B:Just take Texas.
Speaker B:The rest of that map wouldn't mean a damn thing.
Speaker B:Yeah, it would mean nothing without the electrical.
Speaker A:I totally agree.
Speaker A:And so I heard the other night I was watching electric coverage and I would flip over to MSNBC and stuff like that to see what they were saying.
Speaker A:And of course, when it looked like Harris was going to lose, this one guy came in and of course, being the unbiased reporter, he said this horrible thing called the Electoral College.
Speaker A:Look, let me tell you something, because I watched, I watched FOX News.
Speaker A:I watched Ms.
Speaker A:ND with Ms.
Speaker A:Msnbc, no dnc.
Speaker A:I watched him.
Speaker A:I watched cnn.
Speaker A:I watched ABC and I watched cbs.
Speaker A:I watched all five.
Speaker A:I was flipped.
Speaker A:Mostly Fox, but flipping back and forth.
Speaker A:FOX always had a Democrat on the panel, at least one and generally two.
Speaker A:Generally two Democrats on the panel.
Speaker A:So if they had eight people, generally two people were Democrats there.
Speaker A:And I mean, and I don't mean these are Democrats that are kind of, kind of Democrats.
Speaker A:Harold Ford Jr.
Speaker A:Is a solid Democrat.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Jessica Tarloff is a solid Democrat.
Speaker A:You know, so they had these real people, one Williams, which is, he's crazy.
Speaker A:He was pissed at night.
Speaker B:I'm so, I'm sick.
Speaker A:But, but then when you see like going MSNBC, I think Claire McCaskill was a former senator, was on there and she's going, she just, I mean, they're beside themselves about this deal.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A: y presidential election since: Speaker A: s able to vote in, except for: Speaker A:Now I can easily, and I'm not going to make excuses, I can say, hey, it was a Covid, you know, who knew that that was going to get turned upside down by all these local people that were breaking the law.
Speaker A:And look, I'm not saying that Trump didn't win.
Speaker A:So don't, don't, don't miscontrue what I said.
Speaker A:Miscontrue, misconstrue what I said.
Speaker A:But these, these election officials did break the law by changing election laws unilaterally and not going through the process.
Speaker A:That was a breaking of the law.
Speaker A:So I was wrong about that presidential election.
Speaker A:I did think Trump was going to win.
Speaker A: But everyone since: Speaker B:Well, now I want to say this I.
Speaker B:Guys, the Republican Party at this point is poised to have.
Speaker B:We've already got, we've got the Senate.
Speaker B:That's a lot that's done very close on the House.
Speaker B:The House trending our way.
Speaker A:The House looks pretty solid Republican.
Speaker A:It's not, you know, I know they were worried about it flipping the night of.
Speaker A:But if you look, we looked at it earlier and there's only eight of the remaining seats left in the House, which is quite a few left.
Speaker A:There's only eight that are trending Democrat.
Speaker B:And now we have the White House also.
Speaker B:All three.
Speaker A:Don't fuck it up, guys.
Speaker B:You have, you have again, a historic opportunity here.
Speaker B:Republicans all across the country been talking a big game on the border, immigration, on budgets, energy spending, energy, all this.
Speaker B:Do not screw this up.
Speaker B:Listen me, Congressman Ronny Jackson, Senator Ted Cruz, even the other one, they're not watching this.
Speaker B:I know, I know they're not.
Speaker A:By the way, could, could very well be the Senate Majority Leader, John Cornyn.
Speaker A:It's possible.
Speaker A:He's in the running.
Speaker B:I hope not.
Speaker B:Yeah, but I hope not because Cornyn is.
Speaker B:Corny is not a conservative.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:He's proven himself not to be.
Speaker A: is because this did happen in: Speaker A:The Republicans for the first, the first two years of Donald Trump's presidency, they controlled all.
Speaker A:They controlled both chambers of Congress and the presidency.
Speaker A:But Donald Trump was very green.
Speaker A:Didn't know come here from sick em when it came to his cabinet or anything like that.
Speaker B:Right, I know.
Speaker A:And you had Paul Ryan.
Speaker A:Oh, it was the speaker of the House.
Speaker B:Talk about a rhino.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So what's going to be different now is Johnson is Speaker of the House.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Don't know who the Senate Majority Leader will be.
Speaker A:So it may, they may be pretty weak themselves this time around.
Speaker A:But the biggest deal is Trump will have hit the ground running.
Speaker A:He's got a lot of people on his side.
Speaker A:He, he knows what's going on.
Speaker A:He knows how the game is played.
Speaker A:He knows who to talk to and who not to talk to.
Speaker A:He knows who to hire and not hire.
Speaker A:Last time he hired people who were loyal to him because that's what he did in business.
Speaker A:But he didn't know whether they could actually do the job or were competent and a lot of them weren't.
Speaker A:That's why a lot of those people that he hired right off the bat were gone within a couple of years.
Speaker B:Well, you know, you Know who's going to be part of this administration is somebody I know that you were really excited about.
Speaker B:Vivek Ramaswamy.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:He, he confirmed last night with Sean, on Sean Hannity that what he said was, I look forward to playing a large, a crucial role in this new administration.
Speaker A:And handy press him on.
Speaker A:Would you take a cabinet position?
Speaker A:I look forward to.
Speaker A:And he, he finally did answer.
Speaker A:Yes, I would if offered.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think he's going to be involved.
Speaker A:I'm happy about Robert Kennedy be involved.
Speaker A:I really am.
Speaker A:I look, Robert Kennedy's a Democrat, but he's a traditional Democrat.
Speaker A:Those guys, I could always work with traditional Democrats because they're more middle of the road.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Type people.
Speaker A:And Kendi, I think if he's going to focus on, he's going to focus on the food supply and that sort of thing.
Speaker A:That's his wheelhouse.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And, and he's right about a lot.
Speaker A:All the crap that's been put in our processed food and overly processed foods and stuff like that.
Speaker A:There needs to be some oversight on that.
Speaker B:One of the things I've observed, especially in this election, particularly older voters who voted Democrat, and by older, I mean I'm talking 70 plus years of age, they're voting for Democrats not based on the current Democrat stances and policies and platform, but based on their memory of what Democrats were 50 years ago.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I told my granddad one time he's still voting for.
Speaker A:Oh, fdr.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You're voting for fdr.
Speaker A:FDR has been dead for years and you're still voting for him.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And then the yellow Dog Democrat, my grandmother, my grandmother, my mom's mom was an FDR Democrat up until Jimmy Carter.
Speaker B:Jimmy Carter changed her whole perspective on the Democratic Party.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:She was so incredibly angry over the incompetence of the Carter administration.
Speaker B:And, you know, now we look back and it wasn't all just Jimmy Carter.
Speaker B:It was a lot of people that surrounded Jimmy Carter.
Speaker A:Jimmy Carter is a good person.
Speaker B:Jimmy Carter's a good, he's a decent, very decent human being.
Speaker B:Nothing personal against the man as a leader, though, but he's a shit president.
Speaker B:He was very weak as a leader and he unfortunately surrounded himself with a lot of weak people who didn't understand the job.
Speaker B:Yeah, they didn't get the assignment at all.
Speaker B:And so they, you know, they, they made it very difficult for him to, to excel in any area.
Speaker B:And so my grandmother, she became a Reagan Republican really quick.
Speaker A:They were called Reagan Democrats, they became Republicans, but the term was Reagan Democrat.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:There were people who had traditionally been Democrat voters and they voted for Reagan.
Speaker B:But at that time, Reagan represented his philosophies and his policies and his viewpoints were still very much reflected within the Democratic Party.
Speaker B: ll remember, let's go back to: Speaker B:This is on YouTube.
Speaker B:You can find the damn video of it.
Speaker B:You have Bill Clinton, then President of the United States, addressing a joint session of Congress.
Speaker B:And he's talking about what we've got to do to get the immigration.
Speaker B:Illegal immigration, and they use the term illegal immigration.
Speaker B:You can find video of him addressing and talking about what we've got to do and the steps we've got to take.
Speaker B:And all the Democrats are like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:You know, and Joe Biden.
Speaker B:Joe Biden in that same period was talking the same talk.
Speaker A:Well, not just that, abortion.
Speaker A:Famously, Bill Clinton said, safe, legal and rare.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Now it's.
Speaker A:It's do what you like when you want to do it.
Speaker A:It doesn't matter.
Speaker A:I mean, Missouri, that it's.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:And I said that once again.
Speaker A:I said this for a long time ago.
Speaker A:Bill Clinton was not a leftist.
Speaker A:Hillary Clinton is a leftist.
Speaker A:His wife was.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Bill Clinton was not a leftist.
Speaker A:He was a very conservative Democrat.
Speaker A:He was a Democrat and he still had those Democrat leanings, but he was on the conservative scale of the Democrats.
Speaker B:More of a JFK kind of Democrat.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:Than anything else.
Speaker A:I'm telling you, what I've been telling people is, and I'm serious about this, give it a chance.
Speaker A:Donald Trump's a president.
Speaker A:It is what it is.
Speaker A:You could scream and piss and moan and like it or not like it, it doesn't matter at this point.
Speaker A:Donald Trump is the president.
Speaker A:And the same thing as I said when Joe Biden was president, and I said it on the radio with you guys.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I said, you know what?
Speaker A:He's the president.
Speaker A:I support him as a president.
Speaker A:I want him to be successful.
Speaker A:And I gave him the benefit of the doubt for about a year and.
Speaker A:Or ish.
Speaker A:Until I started really seeing.
Speaker A:Well, and he started killing stuff right off the bat because he went after the industry or the energy industry, and he started stopping the border wall and he started reversing all these policies.
Speaker A:So it didn't take very long for me to sour on Joe Biden.
Speaker A:But I didn't sour on him before he was elected president or before he was in office.
Speaker A:And I didn't sour on him day one.
Speaker A:I wanted to give the guy a chance, give him A chance.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Real quick, I want to say on the abortion issue, Missouri voters passed a law that, and I'm using their terms, enshrines abortion rights into their constitution.
Speaker B:Now I'm going to tell you this.
Speaker B:This never should have been a federal issue.
Speaker B:It never should have been taken away from the states.
Speaker B:It never should have been a federal issue.
Speaker B: n the first place back in the: Speaker B:That's what made it such a polarizing debate.
Speaker C:Well, also something to think about is that technically, if you really think about it, it's harder to deal with 50 different states.
Speaker C:So it's really to the, for the people who were fighting then wanted the Roe v.
Speaker C:Wade to be, you know, reversed.
Speaker C:It was, it was certainly they don't, the movement doesn't want abortion.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:But they were focused on or wants.
Speaker A:It on a limited scale.
Speaker C:Right, right.
Speaker C:But they, that they were wanting it to be constitutional, whatever laws there are, be constitutional about it.
Speaker C:And undoing, of course, this wasn't a law.
Speaker C:This was a Supreme Court decision.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:Which.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:It was a precedent, so it got reversed.
Speaker C:Now it's actually more difficult and it's a completely different game, if you will.
Speaker C:They have to now deal with 50 different states and in a way you could, of course, you know, half full, half empty.
Speaker C:It is harder and it's actually a harder position to, to make happen what they want to have happen.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So it's kind of, you know, but.
Speaker A:Here'S also part of the problem is controlling the language, if you see it, reproductive rights.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Now we're not even using abort the word abortion anymore.
Speaker A:So basically what we're doing is we're trying to whitewash what it is an abortion is the killing of a baby.
Speaker A:Let's just call it what it is.
Speaker A:Whether you're for it or against it or okay with it or on whatever, wherever you fall on the spectrum from being whenever you want, no matter, you know, if it's up to birth, to the hardline people of no abortion under any circumstances, no matter what.
Speaker A:And everybody's in between there.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So no matter where you fall, the fact is it is killing of a, of a, of a, of a human being, a potential human being.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:That's what it is.
Speaker A:And depending on how far, much further it goes, you know, that's why it's not killing of a.
Speaker A:It's killing of a potential human being when it's a, a brand new fetus.
Speaker A:But when it gets to months and months in now, it is a human being.
Speaker A:It's a viable human being.
Speaker A:And so that's what you.
Speaker A:You are.
Speaker A:So quit bullshitting yourself and bullshitting all of you around it by calling reproductive rights.
Speaker A:It's called abortion.
Speaker A:Now, once again, you can believe however you want to believe.
Speaker A:I respect that you believe where you believe, but let's call it what it is.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, but legally, in our country, the states are to handle things that the federal government doesn't have laid out in the Constitution.
Speaker A:I totally agree with you.
Speaker A:I think this should be a state.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:There you go.
Speaker C:Now, let's change.
Speaker C:Can I change the subject on something?
Speaker B:Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker C:So one last thing.
Speaker C:There's, there's been floated about on some TV shows, news shows, whatever, that Biden should resign now and give Kamala the distinction of being the first black female and she would be the 47th.
Speaker A:President.
Speaker C:And that would cancel out any of Trump's memorabilia that he's already got.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Anyway, I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker A:I don't think he'll do it.
Speaker A:I don't think he'll do it because I don't think he likes.
Speaker A:I don't think he likes Harris and I don't think his camp.
Speaker C:But he'll have a legacy.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think what Biden and look, I.
Speaker C:Don'T think so either.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think Biden's going to pardon me.
Speaker C:Thought.
Speaker A:I think he's going to pardon his son.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I don't blame him.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:And if he's smart, he'll pardon Trump and get all this done.
Speaker B:Well, they've already said Jack Smith, the prosecutor.
Speaker B:That was, that was.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was going after Trump.
Speaker B:Those cases are falling apart.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He's already.
Speaker B:Smith has already started the process of basically withdrawing everything because it's going to happen.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:Well, the Supreme Court's already handed Trump a win in that he's given immunity from certain acts, certain actions taken while he was in office.
Speaker B:So he's already won that fight.
Speaker B:Really, at this point, Prosecutor, you're not going to put Trump in jail.
Speaker B:Trump's not going to get.
Speaker B:You're not going to.
Speaker B:Donald Trump's not going to be led away in handcuffs.
Speaker B:That ain't gonna happen, guys.
Speaker A:By the way, if you go back and look at our shorts, we've got a really good.
Speaker A:Mike has a great rant on that.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's about a minute long rant on.
Speaker A:On the whole Trump being led neck Handcuffs.
Speaker A:It's really funny.
Speaker B:It ain't gonna happen.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But, but let me.
Speaker B:I'm gonna ask you guys, because I know we need to wrap up here pretty soon, but what do you guys, what do you guys expect from Trump, you know, let's say within the first 60, 90 days of the presidency?
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Because I think already there's.
Speaker B:There's already a feeling that the malaise that has settled in over this country over the last four years is already lifting.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, well, the stock market showing that, too.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's a lot.
Speaker A:There's a lot of consumer confidence.
Speaker A:I think the consumer confidence is going to go up.
Speaker A:I think that the oil industry is going to crank itself back up high gear because I don't think they're going to wait.
Speaker A:I bet Halliburton is probably already hiring people right now.
Speaker A:Hope so.
Speaker A:And I think the border, the border wall is going to not only get built, I think the border is going to get stronger and tougher immediately.
Speaker A:I think that's a day one.
Speaker A:I think the border will be shut down.
Speaker C:Well, will there be a surge to try to get across before he takes office?
Speaker A:There might be.
Speaker B:There might be.
Speaker B:And I think.
Speaker B:And I think that's something.
Speaker B:Well, I tell you what, having talked to people who work the border patrol agents and people that work the border and most.
Speaker B:99% of these people will never speak on.
Speaker B:Because they can't and they won't.
Speaker B:But off the record, they'll tell you we have been overwhelmed for years now.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And the last three to five years have been the worst.
Speaker B:They're just that we don't have enough bodies there.
Speaker B:We don't have enough people there.
Speaker B:We don't have enough manpower, we don't have enough equipment, we don't have enough resources.
Speaker B:We don't have enough of anything there.
Speaker B:And that's why this problem has become so exacerbated, is we've not had the resources and the people on the border that we need there to control the city.
Speaker B:And Mexico knows this.
Speaker B:The cartels know this because they're helping smuggle people.
Speaker A:They're the ones who are making all the money.
Speaker B:Yeah, they're getting fat off of this.
Speaker B:So the people, all the players on the other side of the border, they know this.
Speaker B:They know we don't have the resources there.
Speaker B:So is there going to be a surge?
Speaker B:Yeah, I think there probably will be.
Speaker B:How large that surge will be, how much they could ramp that up in the next three months, I don't know.
Speaker B:But yeah, I think there's going to be something that will happen.
Speaker B:They're going to try to get more people in here.
Speaker B:We're already dealing with millions of people in this country that we don't know where they are.
Speaker A:And I do think there will be a lot more deportations.
Speaker A:There will be maybe Obama level portation.
Speaker A:By the way, Obama was the deporting.
Speaker A:He, the number one deporter in the presidency.
Speaker A:Sure was.
Speaker A:It wasn't like.
Speaker A:And I say that it was his administration.
Speaker A:Barack Obama didn't go deport people.
Speaker A:But, but his administration at his direction and his.
Speaker A:Well, somebody in his administration's direction.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know that he directed it, but somebody did.
Speaker B:Well, I think, I think ultimately he had to sign off on it at some level.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Whether it was.
Speaker A:We saw Joe Biden sign off on a lot of stuff there, Mike.
Speaker B:We sure, yeah.
Speaker A:He said, I don't even know what I'm signing exactly.
Speaker B:But, but, you know, I think we're going to see the, the border, the economy is what I think when you look at the map, you look at the popular vote, the border and the economy drove a lot of people back to Donald Trump.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Because they had felt everybody got to the point where they're like, okay, obviously, Kamala Harris, you've been three and a half years now as vice president, why haven't you taken action?
Speaker B:And clearly Joe Biden has not had the cognitive capacity.
Speaker B:Oh, he's on charge within the last three years to do all of the things he.
Speaker B:She's been doing a lot of things behind the scenes.
Speaker B:I believe they've been getting input from the Obamas.
Speaker B:I believe they've been getting input from other elements of the Democratic Party.
Speaker B:And yeah, Joe may have been signed the paper, but Joe didn't negotiate a damn thing.
Speaker C:Well, but she had to play, but she had to play it very gingerly, if you will, because she, she couldn't.
Speaker C:Because she can't be in charge, even though she might have some influence of actual policy and all that.
Speaker C:But she can't usurp his authority, if you will.
Speaker B:I think there were probably a lot.
Speaker C:Of, I think she had probably a.
Speaker B:Lot of official meetings, a lot of official face to face stuff that she was doing behind the scenes that nobody saw.
Speaker B:Like I said, 95% of what these people do is behind the curtain.
Speaker B:We don't ever see it.
Speaker B:President, vice President, doesn't matter.
Speaker B:95% of it.
Speaker B:You and I don't ever see.
Speaker B:We don't see it.
Speaker B:It's behind the curtain.
Speaker B:So I think she probably was doing a lot of that face to face, one on one stuff that he couldn't do.
Speaker B:He just could not pull off and was never going to be able to pull off.
Speaker B:And I just, of course, and there's still a lot of righteous anger out there about basically hand selecting her to be the candidate rather than having a mini primary and selecting a new candidate.
Speaker A:Well, it is what it is.
Speaker B:It is what it is.
Speaker B:Donald Trump's the 47th president of the United States, or at least unless he's.
Speaker A:Going to be the next elected President of the United States, he will be Donald Trump.
Speaker B:Donald Trump is the President Elect.
Speaker B:In January, he takes off and I just hope, personally, and I know these guys do too, that the Republicans get together and do what needs to be done to get things right for the country.
Speaker A:Not for Republicans, not for conservatives, not for white, white, middle class, heterosexual men, for everybody in the country.
Speaker A:And that's, by the way, that's what this election's been about.
Speaker A:You look at who voted for Trump.
Speaker A:It wasn't a bunch of white heterosexual men.
Speaker A:It was men, women.
Speaker A:It was, it was black people, white people, Hispanic, Indian, Asian.
Speaker A:It was all across the board as young people, old people.
Speaker A:There's a lot of people voted for Trump.
Speaker A:So now he's got, got the quote, unquote mandate right now.
Speaker A:Don't screw it up.
Speaker B:Well, I was looking, I was looking into the breakdown of some of these numbers and there's a whole lot of people, a whole lot of minority voters that she did not get.
Speaker B:Oh, sure, that Biden did.
Speaker B:There's a whole lot of them.
Speaker B:You could see where anywhere from half a percentage point to 3 or 4 percentage points fewer than he got.
Speaker B:Well, and that's when you start looking, you know, county by county and district by district and you start breaking it down to, you know, chewing it real fine.
Speaker B:You see that?
Speaker A:Well, I know we got to wrap up here, but the, there is a, there's a.
Speaker A:And you need to watch it.
Speaker A:It's on Google.
Speaker A:I think it was CNN or msnbc.
Speaker A:They had their big election map and there's two guys talking and one of them goes, well, let's look and see where, where Kamala Harris over, over performed.
Speaker A:And you know, they had those all.
Speaker A:He hit the overperform button.
Speaker A:Nothing, not one county in the entire country.
Speaker A:Because in fact, he goes, oh, because there's nothing, nothing over here is all blank.
Speaker A:And he goes, move that over to the side as they slid the thing over.
Speaker A:And not one county.
Speaker A:He said nothing.
Speaker A:No, and I didn't Overperform it anywhere in their estimation.
Speaker B:I was watching NBC News coverage and I noticed.
Speaker B:And guys, come on.
Speaker B:What broadcast school are you pulling these people out of?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker B:But I noticed that they were very reluctant to use the term underperforming when talking about her, but they made heavy use of the term overperforming when they were talking about Trump.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And the emphasis was basically their tone and their emphasis and such was to say that why is he over?
Speaker B:We don't understand why he's over performing.
Speaker B:He shouldn't be over performing here.
Speaker B:But that was the facts.
Speaker B:It was what it was.
Speaker B:So, guys.
Speaker B:And we'll have a lot more to talk about on this going forward.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I think Russell Schreiber is going to be on with us next week.
Speaker B:Oh, good.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Well, Russell, Russell Schreiber is the, he's the.
Speaker A:We have the public works director for.
Speaker B:SEA Wichita Falls, and we have two guests next week.
Speaker A:Russell Schreiber one day.
Speaker A:And then Jim Kulavatos, who's the Clay County Memorial Hospital CEO, is going to come and talk about Medicare.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:And pretty, pretty important because the Medicare signup is about to happen.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And, you know, I know our listener base is pretty diverse, but it's not just, it's not just the people that are on Medicare.
Speaker A:You got people like me, who my mother is, is obviously Medicare age and stuff like that.
Speaker A:Well, I'm, you know, my mother's making all of her decisions and things like that, but I'm kind of her advisor.
Speaker A:My dad's gone down and, And I'm an only child.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So she's leaning on you very heavily for advice.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or just bouncing things off of me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't want to make it sound.
Speaker A:My mother's making her own decisions and take cares of all.
Speaker A:All that.
Speaker A:Take care of all that.
Speaker A:But she does bounce things off of me because I'm the one who's left to do it.
Speaker A:She, you know, most of her, you know, some of her brother and sisters are now dead.
Speaker A:Brothers and sisters.
Speaker A:She does have a few, but they don't live here.
Speaker A:Close.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And so, and there's, but that's not unusual there.
Speaker A:You get to a point, you people who get in their 70s, their late 70s and early 80s and mid-80s, they'll find out where their partner, their, their longtime wife or husband dies, and they're kind of, they don't have anybody to bounce stuff off of anymore.
Speaker A:So it's usually one of the kids that steps up.
Speaker A:So, you know, Check that one out as well.
Speaker B:And that, and that is a, that's a process now.
Speaker B:It's complicated.
Speaker B:There's a lot.
Speaker B:There's just a.
Speaker B:There's so much information you got to absorb.
Speaker A:Well, there's also a lot of bullshit out there too.
Speaker B:There is.
Speaker A:And this is nice thing.
Speaker A:Jim's gonna cut through the.
Speaker A:And the thing is, he's not selling anything.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He has nothing to sell.
Speaker A:He's not an insurance agent.
Speaker A:He's nothing.
Speaker A:He's just a person who in the know and knows what happens.
Speaker A:But he has nothing to sell, nothing to gain.
Speaker B:He's not advocating for any particular element.
Speaker A:He's going to tell us the facts.
Speaker B:Just the facts, ma'am.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:All right.
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