Episode 97
Episode 97: From TV Screens to Art Scenes" 📺✨ with Ann Arnold Ogden
Kick off the New Year right with Mike Hendren, Terry McAdams, and Trey Sralla as they dive into a fun and lively chat with local star Ann Arnold Ogden, Executive Director of the Wichita Falls Alliance for Arts and Culture!
🎉 In this episode:
- 📺 From TV to Arts Advocate: Ann Arnold Ogden shares her journey from TV screens to leading a cultural renaissance in Wichita Falls.
- 🖌️ Big Bronze Dreams: Ann reveals behind-the-scenes insights into the creation of the stunning Charlie Ferris sculpture and its historical significance.
- 🍖 BBQ Spotlight: Terry dishes on his favorite local franchise, Dickies Barbecue Pit, owned by Ed Aguilar. Pro tip: Try the brisket!
- 🌟 Texoma Pride: Real talk on promoting Wichita Falls and celebrating the amazing, creative talent in our community.
- 🎨 Exciting Announcements: Upcoming projects including art advocacy at the state level and innovative public art installations around town—stay tuned for updates!
- 😂 Friendly Banter: The crew hilariously debates local hot spots, discusses intriguing scams, and dives into some political chatter.
👍 Support Local: Don’t miss your chance to visit Dickies BBQ on Lawrence Road—recommended by Terry and backed by Trey!
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📍 Local Businesses & People Mentioned:
- Ann Arnold Ogden – Wichita Falls Alliance for Arts and Culture
- Dickies Barbecue Pit – Ed Aguilar (Lawrence Road)
- Charlie Ferris Sculpture – Wichita County Courthouse
- Midwestern State University (MSU)
- River Bend Nature Center – Jennica Lambert
- Wichita Falls Chamber of Commerce – Ron Kitchens
- Legacy High School – Troy Ferris
Transcript
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Speaker B: y heavy thinking to do before: Speaker A:Hey, welcome to another episode of Get It Right Texoma with trio Mike Hendren, Terry McAdams, Trey Sralla. Very happy to have you with us. We get together to entertain, inform and hopefully enlighten you as often as possible. We appreciate you being here.
Of course, you're probably watching this after the holidays are over with, right?
Speaker C:So I hope you had a good holiday.
Speaker A:Hope everybody up. Good Christmas.
Speaker D:When will this hit approximately?
Speaker A:Oh, probably around New Year's, I'm thinking.
Speaker C:So might be a New Year Year's surprise.
Speaker A:It could, this could be, this could be the New Year's surprise for you.
Speaker C:By the way, we do have an empty seat, which means we do have a guest coming in.
Speaker A:We do.
Speaker C:And Arnold Ogden.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Of famous Wichita.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Local, Local celebrity.
Speaker A:Yeah, she. Well, she was on the, the television.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker D:Yes, yes, I saw that on the tv.
Speaker C:Now she's the executive director of the Arts Alliance Council, I believe.
Speaker A:Yeah, she'll talk about that.
Speaker D:Okay, well, maybe she'll tell us about the TV when she was on there.
Speaker C:The television.
Speaker A:Be sure to check out our website. Get it right, texoma.com we're on Facebook as well.
Be sure to like and share our Facebook page and be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel as well, please, if you would. And there's not a lot happening around the area to talk about.
Yeah, everything's kind of beginning of a new year coming up and just not a lot happening right now. So we're going to jump right into our local restaurant focus here.
Speaker C:And this is a Terry Pick right here.
Speaker A:This is Terry's Pick.
Speaker C:It's not really local local, but it kind of is. And we can kind of explain.
Speaker D:So Barbecue Dickies Barbecue opened up a number of years ago and I can't remember exactly what year it was, but basically I've actually been helping every single owner since they opened.
Speaker C:Barbecue is a national chain or regional, at least Texas.
Speaker D:Yeah, it's based, I think in Dallas.
Speaker C:I think it's based in Dallas. Yeah.
Speaker D:And anyway, it's a, a, it's a franchise. And so this local was opened a number of years ago and it's had a few owners over the years.
And then, and unfortunately one of the owners got a little challenged and it was sold off to someone. And who then? I mean, I think it's had three, four owners. Four or five owners since then. But here's the thing.
Here's the great Thing Again, I've helped every one of those because I really, really, really like the, the barbecue that they have. And so Ed Aguilar. Aguilar, huh? Yeah.
He owns it currently and he's from Dallas, but he moved his family up here and bought this franchise and he has turned around. He's gone from concrete to barbecue to barbecue, and he is doing a phenomenal job.
He has really brought up the standards there, worked with the franchisee, the company, and has really learned a lot. I'm just impressed, I have to say. They are my favorite barbecue in this town.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker D:I like the others. There's some pretty good ones. But when, especially when what was the one on that had the stage and everything? Anyway, I forget the name of it.
Anyway, they're gone. They had really good barbecue, too.
Speaker C:But anyway, the Rafter J. Not Raptor J, the one that was. I know what you're talking about. Yeah.
Speaker D:It was a craft barbecue place. Yes. So, but anyway, I, I have found as. Especially if it's done correctly, they do it. They do a phenomenal job, but they have all kinds of things.
But it is a locally owned, in terms of the, the franchise. Right. So, so some of that money does stay here.
Speaker C:So, so it's not a local, it's not a locally owned and operated business, but it's a locally owned and operated franchise. So, yes, some of the profits obviously do go to the national, but a lot.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker C:And I will say they employ people from Wichita Falls or local people.
Speaker A:I will say of the chain barbecue places that I've eaten, Dickies has been my favorite.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker A:So far.
Speaker D:And, but it's also having worked with all the different owners over the years, I, I, I can tell you that it really does make a difference on who runs that place. It is a absolute. He, if you follow there now, he's there because there's an art to cooking, especially brisket.
Speaker C:I was going to say. Ye. Especially brisket. Even smoked meats. Yes.
Speaker D:Even if they have that, that formula, if you will. Still, it is. He's learned some things.
Speaker C:Time and temperature means a lot when it comes to that sort of stuff.
Speaker D:So I think that you really ought to give it a shot, especially if you've had a bad experience with them. Because that's true. Before he took over, there had been some challenges and he really, really wants, I mean, he is dedicated to this business.
I mean, just, it's, it's amazing.
Speaker C:Dicky's Barbecue, they're on the, they're on.
Speaker D:Lawrence Road, right here, next between what's the Bo Cavenders and the haircut in the haircut place. Yes, they're.
Speaker C:They're right there. Like in that little strip mall.
Speaker D:Yes, yes. And they, like I said, they do a great job. And just, just Terry says check them out. Check it out.
Speaker A:Yeah, do that.
Speaker D:So bakers are awesome too. But anyway.
Speaker A:Oh, well, we do have an interview coming up here and Arnold Ogden is going to join us next here on Get It Right Texoma. And she, she'd been a guest on. On my radio show and I haven't talked to her in quite a while.
Speaker C:Yeah, you know, catch up, see how things are.
Speaker A:I haven't seen her in a while until she just walked in a moment ago. Yes, she's waiting in the wings over here. Yes, we'll take her in the green room. She's in the green. She's in the green room putting on the purple.
So we'll be. We'll be back right after this. Stay tuned. Short break here. More Get It Right Textilema on the way.
And welcome back to Get a Ride Textilema with the trio. And our very special guest, as promised, is Ann Arnold Ogden. And welcome.
Speaker B:Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker A:It's been a day or two since we've seen.
Speaker B:You know that. That radio always made me so nervous. I feel like you both knew this. That radio always made me so, so nervous. Now we're combining radio with tv.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Which I don't know how I feel. This is my first like this podcast.
Speaker C:But here's the thing, though. You were on TV for so long and so natural at it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:I can't imagine.
Speaker B:So natural at reading a prompter. Yeah.
Speaker C:I know there were times that you didn't because I saw you one time.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker C:Reporting live. I was on the radio. Way to the radio station one when you probably don't remember this out at the.
Speaker B:There was snow and they put me in the intersection.
Speaker C:There was a snow and. And I brought by and I didn't realize she was on the air live. I thought she was just standing there waiting for her thing.
I swung by, I said, and what.
Speaker D:Are you doing out in the rain?
Speaker C:She said, I'm out here tracer Raleigh in the snow or something like that. Live on TV.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker D:Yeah. Do you have a TV voice, like a lot of 100? Okay. I'd like to hear it.
Speaker B:Yeah. Well, it's on now.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker D:Oh, well, you don't.
Speaker B:What you. What you hear all the time is the TV voice. I paid a lot of money to not talk like I'm from southeast Texas.
Speaker D:So you're always so I am.
Speaker B:Well, not always. There are times. So I have a 5 year old now and I can hear the southeast Texas in him a little bit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So he said one day, mommy, daddy put a fire in the fireplace. I just had to laugh. And I was like, that's me.
Speaker C:Sorry.
Speaker B:Firefighters.
Speaker D:Well, that's what I was saying about the tv. We got a TV star.
Speaker A:I too spent a lot of money. Not to sound like a bale of hay, but occasionally I do well.
Speaker B:And it's slipped a lot in the last 10 or so years.
So I do anytime I would talk to a local sheriff, so Kenny Lemons, for example, when he was sheriff in Clay county, anytime I called him, that southeast Texas slipped back in.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And everyone in the newsroom would like, look and be like, who was he talking to? And I was like, oh, he got Ann, he got Anna. Get somebody else. Yes.
Speaker C:I never spent any money and I still sound like a bell. Hey, I'm one of those people that I sound like I'm talking now.
I feel like I'm sounding normal, but when I listen to myself recorded, I feel like I'm trying to.
Speaker B:Everybody, everybody come on down here to.
Speaker C:The goats gruin or something.
Speaker B:Everybody thinks they sound terrible. That's totally normal.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah, this TV station. When Skip was there, I was. So we had Skip on.
Speaker B:How's he doing? He doesn't call, he doesn't write, but.
Speaker D:He does his little weather reports occasionally.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker D:And I think that's awesome.
Speaker C:Skip was on a few weeks, a few months ago.
Speaker A:It feels like everybody was there when Skip was there because it feels like.
Speaker C:He was there forever there for a long time.
Speaker B:A very long time.
Speaker C:All right, so we got the pass out of the way. So currently, tell everybody what you. What is your current position in Wichita Falls?
Speaker A:What are you doing these days besides building fires in the fireplace, raising children?
Speaker B:I am the executive director of the Witch Falls alliance for Arts and Culture. We work with arts organizations like the Kemp center, which is the arts council, and the Art association, which is gallery. And we work with.
We've got about 13 or 14 actually here in Wichita Falls. And so we serve as a grant making arm for the city of Wichita Falls. So they have money that they have to use not on potholes.
You know, the hotel occupied occupancy tax can only be used for tourism, marketing, promotion of the arts, historic restoration, those kind of things. So the city gives us a Pot of that money.
And we in turn do grants for organizations so that they can continue being something the city can market and attract tourists. We do public art projects. We just wrapped up a huge project in October. And thank you, Trey, for coming. That was really nice of you to come here.
Speaker C:Troy Ferris is actually a dear friend of mine. Yeah, Troy and I are very close friends.
Speaker B:And so you weren't there for me is what you're saying.
Speaker C:Yeah, I came there. Just see you. Yeah, yeah. The Charlie. Charlie Ferris exhibit. And if you haven't seen it, it is phenomenal.
Charlie Ferris was a very historic person in this. In Wichita Falls. She was the first black female lawyer in the state of Texas and was a prominent figure.
Speaker B:Put the emphasis on that. Wrong. In the state of Texas. The entire.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker B:Date of Texas. She was the first black woman licensed.
Speaker C:To be a lawyer, which is.
Speaker B:She's from here and she's.
Speaker C:Yeah, she grew up here and came back here, practiced law here. And her. And her son is a prominent educator here in Wichita Falls. Yeah, Troy Ferris, he's been a lot of different. He's been a teacher and all that.
Principal. And he's currently serving as associate principal of Legacy High School.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:So. And he's a doctor. Pha. In fact, I told him one time, I said, troy, I said, I would hate to have to be in your family. He said, what do you mean?
I said I would be the dummy in your family. I said, all your. Everybody in your family has doctors and this and that. Like, oh, Trey, you just got a bachelor's degree. I'm the dummy.
But anyhow, Charlie Ferris was a phenomenal lady, and her mother was a. Roberta Ferris was a phenomenal lady. And just Grandma Ferris used to call her Grandma Ferris. But it's. So that.
That whole thing that y'all put together just kind of explain a little bit the magnitude of what that took to put that together.
Speaker B:What did you say the rating was on this show?
Speaker C:PG 13.
Speaker B:Oh, no, no.
Speaker C:NC 17, maybe.
Speaker D:No way.
Speaker C:No, it's not that bad.
Speaker B: e to us about this project in:And we have been raising money for all that time. We will still take money for this project if you'd like to give it to us.
And, and working with a sculptor, you know, price of bronze has been like this. It's, it's. It's been very big learning experience for me to do something. It's. It's a nine foot tall sculpture of Ms.
Ferris on the courthouse lawn right across from her old office. And it's.
You know, she worked at the courthouse in a time where she couldn't use the same water fountain as other people that she worked with her colleagues. The same restroom or her restroom was on a different floor from everyone else.
So to look at the things that she achieved and then the things she put back into this community. You know, she worked with so many organizations. I'm partial to the arts one. She was on the symphony board when they brought in Duke Ellington.
There are children's advocacy groups and so many people that have benefited from who she is.
Speaker C:She was also on the MSU Board of Regents.
Speaker B:Yeah, Board of Regents. Of course. Yeah. So it was, it was really an honor to. To recognize someone who so deserved it and would have hated the whole pomp, all of it.
And I fully acknowledge that. And I. I do feel bad about that. But she deserves everything this community's done and more.
Speaker C:So if you get a chance, go check it out. It's. It's like you said, it's on the. It's across the courthouse from the veterans.
Speaker B:Memorial on the courthouse line.
Speaker C:Right. So it's the front door of the courthouse that nobody uses. Yeah, the front. The front door.
Everybody uses the side door now, but the front door is actually what was used for many, many years.
Speaker B:And the county actually, for their partnership and support of this project, actually won a major statewide award this summer for supporting it through Texans for the Arts. And, you know, it is incredible, this community. There's something so special. I mean, there really is about Wichita Falls and North Texas.
You get support in surprising places for projects that are also surprising. And it's just. It's really lovely.
Speaker A:Well, you know, that brings me to a topic we all talk a lot about. There's a lot of firsts that have happened here with Ms. Farrows, for example.
There's a lot of big things that have come out of our community over the years, and there's a lot of big things that happen here, but we do such a poor job. And I put the blame on city government. I put the blame on citizens. I put the blame on everybody. We do such a poor job of marketing ourselves.
We do such a poor job of promoting ourselves. Anytime I hear someone say Wichita Falls, where is that? I'm like, well, okay, we still suck at marketing ourselves.
And one of my big things is speaking of art, because you got a lot of art on that campus, the Midwestern State University campus, you know, is jam packed with artwork, but we do. Somebody could drive through this city and never know MSU is there.
They can drive completely through town and never know that the college exists here. What can an organization like yours do to kind of.
Or what are you guys doing to kind of help further the marketing of the city or something like Midwestern? I mean, is there any kind of an alliance there that has developed yet or is in the works?
Speaker B:You know, it's, it's, it's interesting. And you guys know my past job was to market the city.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Don't do that anymore. Right. You know, I think that for whatever reason there's, there's this idea that we don't. Maybe it's, you know, inside us, I don't know.
But that in Wichita Falls we don't deserve nice things. And they're already here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But for whatever reason, it's, it's. We don't feel like all the wonderful things we have, like either we don't deserve them or we shouldn't. You know, we, we're just.
I don't, I don't know what it is. I'm not a psychologist and so Wisconsin.
Speaker C:Suffers from low self esteem.
Speaker B:I think so too.
Speaker A:Yeah. Yeah, I think you're right. Well, someone told me here recently, told me, said we seem to be afraid of inviting anyone from the outside in.
Speaker B:Well, now I'm from outside and I feel like I. I mean, I've been here for years. I don't know. I don't know.
I think my role now is to continue making this a beautiful place to live, to celebrate the creativity that's here and to showcase that more broadly. And I am working to do that.
You know, we are actively recruiting for Texans for the Arts to bring their conference here to Wichita Falls so they can see. Yeah, we've got sculpture and murals and artist galore. This is a wildly creative town, whether you think it is or not.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:And we are wildly creative people. And you have to be to live someplace as hot as Wichita Falls is.
Speaker C:Hot and cold and cold and windy, isn't it?
Speaker D:On that note though, about our self esteem as a. Collectively as a city. It's sad when I, to me, I'm sad when I'm reading on a lot of the social media posts that this town. La la la la la.
That you fill in the blank and it's a negative thing. They, you know, drivers, every. I mean there's, it's just, it's as if we are unique in, in some ways we, we absolutely are unique.
Let's celebrate those things. But we're not. They make it sound like we're the worst drivers, we're the worst this. Well, I guess there was something about that.
There was some objective information, but it's just not about that. We don't have this and we don't have that. The more we speak negatively, that's what happens. You know what I mean?
Speaker B:I'm off of social media. Yeah. I don't focus on those things fully. I don't read those things unless I stumble across them. Now, do I miss a lot of things? Sure, I do.
But I'm okay with it. You know, I know what my interests are. I know.
I know what is happening in the arts community, what's happening across the city for the things I'm interested in. I know when there's, like, Mother's Day out happening at the Y. Thank you very much. On my way, dropping him now.
You know, I'm in my own insular little bubble, and I've been a lot happier not complaining to everybody and their mom about what makes me angry. My husband gets all of it.
Speaker A:I think, you know, a lot of those people that you're talking about, I think they're few in number. I don't think there's. There's a lot of them. But. But social media has given them a bullhorn to shout to the world about how aggravated they are.
And my message to those people is, if you hate it that much, I will be glad to contribute the first $100 to your flight anywhere on the globe you want to go or even.
Speaker B:Even more. Like what. What are you doing to make it better?
Speaker C:Yeah, that's the biggest thing.
Speaker B:If you're creative, are you making art and putting it somewhere? Are you. Are you. Do you need to get lo. Can you find a group to feel like this is a place that makes the rest of us very happy?
What do you need that we can fill as citizens?
Speaker A:You mentioned being unplugged from social media. Yeah. Among the many things I do now, everything I'm doing requires me to be connected to people in some way. And social media.
I'm in the real estate business. We can't do that job now without technology.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:There's absolutely. There is. It would be absolutely impossible to do our job without technology and because we're very dependent on it.
And social media is where we meet a lot of our customers.
Speaker B:Absolutely. And I'm not saying, you know, that's. My organization is on social media. It has to be there. That is how we communicate. What we're doing with people.
Speaker C:But you're talking about on your personal side. I'm the same way. My business is on social media too, but I don't sit around on Facebook. You will never see me go, right.
Well, you know, mindlessly scrolling across stuff.
Speaker A:I don't care because it is. You can go down a rabbit hole quick with it, you know, way too fast and so that you have to.
But like with your organization, obviously everything is hyper focused on your mission and what you're doing, what you're trying to accomplish. Do you get a lot of negativity on your.
Speaker B:Not on. No art. We don't social and if we have, I haven't heard about it. I'm not on rants and raves, so I don't, I don't know.
Speaker A:Oh God. That is the most. That's, that's got to be the most useless social media page ever.
Speaker B:I do, I do feel like if we were, someone would tell me. But I also, you know, I don't want to waste my time. Our lives are so short as it is.
I don't want to waste my time and I don't want to waste other people's time doing projects that aren't important in some way meaningful in some way. I'm not going to waste our organization or funders dollars on projects that are just like, oh, I just got to get money in and out the door.
It's going to be meaningful, it's going to be important, it's going to be impactful and hopefully it's going to get more people engaged with arts and culture in our community.
Speaker A:Well, and I go back to what I was saying about marketing our city and our college and Shepard Air Force Base and all the great things we've got here.
There's a lot of opportunity, I think, for everybody, especially an organization like yours, to take a leadership role in furthering educating the world about who we are, where we are and what we offer.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:I think there's a leadership opportunity there for everybody.
Speaker C:And of course, I think the chamber has done a really good job at that under Ron's leadership that's going on.
Speaker D:The idea we talked about technology and the arts. That is a thing of combining the two. And I mean, just think about it.
Just even video, the actual, you know, producing videos of various sorts that promote things or just a documentary or whatever.
Speaker B:Well, even further than that, we're hoping to do some workshops on technology, AI and the arts and what the future holds ahead for that. Because people can create art with AI, but what are the copyright, you know, implications or trademarking?
Speaker D:And I would love to be involved in that.
Speaker B:I would love to.
Speaker D:I have put on some. I'm not an artist by any means.
Speaker B:It says that I'm gonna find it though, so.
Speaker D:But, but I've done a presentation to various organizations in town on AI, Worked with the Small Business Development center and I. The ethics behind.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely. That's gonna be key as we move ahead. You know, what, what are those implications?
And if I create this song using social or using AI, you know, who owns the song technically, how much do I earn? Am I licensing this from the AI company? So there's some really, it's interesting issues.
Speaker D:And things to address.
Speaker C: Looking at: Speaker B:Happy New Year. Somebody drink a big old bottle of champagne for me.
Speaker C:There you go.
Speaker B:New Year's looks so different. As a mom, just saying.
Speaker C:I, I was a mom, I don't know. But as a parent.
Speaker B: Okay, sorry, go ahead. In: Speaker C:So in what is coming up, what's on the radar? What can people look forward to the organization?
Speaker B:Well, we are going to be doing a lot more advocacy work. We are planning to take a group of arts leaders down to Austin to talk to our legislators down there about what we do here and why it matters.
economic component to it. In:We're not talking about architects and you guys doing these creative jobs. That's all part of the arts. So we're going to be doing a lot of advocacy work.
We're going to be teaching arts organizations how to get those, those government contracts and those, those different, you know, because we get money from the National Endowment for the Arts, which is federal government, the state government and local government. And you know, that's there is a place for the arts in community development. So we're going to be talking a lot about that.
We have got several projects lined up in Burke Burnett. I'm still waiting for funding news on those. So I don't want to go too far down that, but invite me back because they're going to be fun.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:I think it's about getting people out and active making art where they are not aware that they either enjoy it or think they're creative or think they're an artist. But they're. Part of us wants to be doing something with our hands.
I think that's something that is innate with all of us, whether it's working or something else. But we have big things ahead. All that to say, and I'm so excited for the city and what's ahead.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, a lot of possibilities. I've been saying for a long time.
Speaker B:That's gonna be huge. They've got a new futsal court out at Bridwell Parks.
Speaker D:All soccer, which is really a form of soccer.
Speaker B:I don't know anything about soccer, and I'm sorry, everyone, but I am painting. I'm not painting now.
Speaker A:Wait, wait, wait, wait. Futsal?
Speaker D:Yes. It's basically you take a basketball court generally, and it's a ball that doesn't bounce very well, but you. It's this.
But it's soccer, essentially, and you have goals and you. And you just have a touchline. We play it at the ymca. I haven't played in a while. I need to it back out there.
Speaker C:But yeah, usually you and you. And you don't use 11.
Speaker D:On 11, right. 5, 6, whatever.
Speaker C:It's almost like indoor soccer.
Speaker D:It's indoor soccer at a small scale.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:And with a. With a ball that doesn't bounce because it'll.
Speaker B:I'm painting a futsal court. I'm not. But we're gonna have an artist, hopefully a local artist come in and do it.
I don't know anything about football, but it's gonna look real pretty when we're done.
Speaker C:You're going to facilitate?
Speaker B:I'm going to facilitate. I'm going to write the checks. We're also. We're also doing a really cool.
You know, when you go somewhere public, you notice if it's, you know, empty or, you know, it could. Or maybe you don't, you know. We're going to be working with the courthouse to do.
To highlight local art, local photography, specifically with iconic Wichita county locations.
Speaker C:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:We're going to be working with msu. We're going to open this to the community. I'm so excited.
Speaker C:And there's some neat place. There's some really neat places in this area.
Speaker D:I have an idea and I think we've talked about this. What about the. Is it the. The foundry and the. The towers right there on the freeway, Atterbury? Is there. Is there anything we could do so much.
Speaker B:Tell them to call me and let's go.
Speaker C:Well, that's what we've talked about before, and I think we talked about when Tim was. Tim Short was on for years I've said it'd be nice for us to.
And I, I figured you could use like 4a or 4b, whichever the money is, that you could use that to go to the foundry and say, yeah, B. Okay. Yep. I'm not real smart. I just know, I know the names. So. But you go into the founder and say, can we paint your roof?
I mean, not going to cost you a penny. We'll paint your roof. Welcome to Wichita Falls or something. Because when you go over that thing, it is, it's.
And I hate to say it's an eyesore, but it's their business. I mean, I don't blame them.
Speaker D:They're.
Speaker C:They're in business to make money there.
Speaker D:That's where it's not a priority for them.
Speaker C:Well, not just that. That place has been there a long time.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:You know, and it's. Yeah, it costs money to do things. So if it's good for the city, could we use some money and do something like that?
Speaker B:Absolutely. Yeah. And you know, it is, it is. I think the funding part is the part that people don't necessarily focus on.
So thank you for, you know, thinking where can we use those funds?
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker B:We've looked at doing similar projects and it's, we're talking 300, $400,000.
Speaker D:Right. It's. It's a long term project, but big.
Speaker B:Call for, you know.
Speaker A:Well, and it's not, it's not just doing the project right. Then there's also maintaining, managing it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know, you paint something like that, it's not a set.
Speaker B:But y'all don't worry about that. Let me worry about that. Let's get something going.
Speaker A:On.
Speaker D:Yeah, I think that would be really cool if we could do something that made that look really nice. Both the foundry and the, the tower, the grain elevators to get. Because there's art already inside.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker D:I mean, there's a ton of.
Speaker C:Not in the grain elevators, but in the building.
Speaker D:Oh, is it in the building? Okay.
Speaker C:It's two different things, right?
Speaker D:Yeah. Because obviously you can't get up in there.
Speaker B:Yeah, we're open. You know, I, I've, I've always talked about interest entrances to our city and how I'd love to beautify them.
And I think we are, you know, a piece at a time. You know, it's, it's. You don't eat enough.
Speaker C:Johnny Cash doll.
Speaker A:One sitting, one piece at a time.
Speaker B:Let's, let's, let's get these, let's keep going, keep the momentum. And yeah, these projects are not impossible. And we do. To get back to our point earlier, we deserve it as a community. We deserve to have nice things.
And I'm ready to help make that happen.
Speaker A:I've served on the committee for a little event called the Cowboy True Art Exhibit for. Well, since its inception.
And you know, one of the things that we had sought to do with that was to exhibit and showcase and enhance the cowboy cultural influence in this area. And there's a lot of that. There's an awful lot of that.
Speaker B:There's an awful lot of history here. Period.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:I mean, aeronautical history, you know, MSU history, oil and gas history, cowboy history, ranching history. You know, let's tell all those stories. That's all I've ever really been good at is telling stories. And now I get to do that with art.
Speaker A:And I think what you can do is you can take. You can take all those stories and all the things that have happened and are happening and you could turn this area.
Because I keep having these conversations with people about what do we do here? What do we do with wichita Falls? We're 2 1/2 hours from Dallas. We're about 2 1/2 hours or so from Oklahoma City. We're kind of in the middle.
Well, go ahead. No, I don't have the hour and 45 minute Sorala trip. No, no, he can afford the ticket. I can't anyway. 8, $900 speeding ticket.
But anyway, what can we do to better market ourselves? And we could take all these things and create kind of arts and cultural center, a hub for this region, I think right here in Wichita.
Speaker C:And I think, I think you guys have done that to some degree.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, there is a lot more emphasis on arts.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And there has been in the last decade than there was before that. So congratulations on you. And everybody is part of the organization that is helping.
Speaker A:And I'm not saying you haven't done that and you know, arts council and all others haven't done that, but there's obviously there's a lot more room to grow.
Speaker B:There is. And I think that. I think the other side of that is we've got more organizational cooperation. We are all working together to support one another.
We're done with this. Like my little silo. Your little silo. To get on the phone and.
And complain to Jennica at Riverbend as soon as I get in the car about, you know, some dumb thing that's affecting my job today. But I know I can call her.
Speaker C:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:I can call Kristen at the Arts Council. I can call Jessica at back Dorothy. I mean, we've got these amazing connections right now with all these amazing organizations. There's momentum.
We're all, you know, ready to work together to do great things. And, And I think if, if, if our organization can be the one that.
That rallies and brings everyone together to get it done, then, you know, that's our role. That's what we do.
Speaker C:I think the future's bright.
Speaker A:That's what I want to hear.
Speaker C:Thank you so much.
Speaker A:Yeah, thank you. Yeah. We do appreciate you being here. We do look forward to having you back.
Speaker B:Sorry, y'all. It's weird. This podcast thing is awesome, but. Wow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Is it really?
Speaker B:It's stressful.
Speaker A:Well, it's.
Speaker C:It's you doing a great job.
Speaker A:You're doing fine. Well, and the thing about it is, is you look at. At the direction media is going.
Speaker B:Oh, sure.
Speaker A:Look how. Well, since you. Since you were in television, look how that's morphed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, market share.
Speaker D:But the market share for the traditional TV station has significantly. Shrunk.
Speaker B:Shrink.
Speaker D:Shrunk.
Speaker B:It's not on the proper. I don't know, Shrunk shrinkage.
Speaker D:But yeah, I think there was a Seinfeld episode.
Speaker B:I think you're right.
Speaker D:So. And by the way, you can do it.
Speaker A:You can do it Dr. Seuss style. Shrink, shrink, shrunk.
Speaker C:There you go.
Speaker D:There we go.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker D:And. And chat. GPT can help me write that script and put it up there. But anyway, so. But I would. I'm gonna offer you this.
If you wanted to do something, whatever it looks like, you're welcome to use this podcast studio for free between the three of us, or we should be able to.
Speaker B:You know, the dean of Fain Fine Arts School and I have talked about it, but, you know, it would just be another thing to do. Murder podcast. So we don't want to talk about that. It's fine. We don't need any more of those.
Speaker D:Murder podcast.
Speaker B:You can talk about that next episode.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:All right, we'll say. We'll say that for a little later episode, though.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker D:Right?
Speaker C:There you go. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker A:Yeah, there's. There's some of that, unfortunately. Yeah.
Speaker D:Okay, well, you're welcome to.
Speaker B:I have weird side interests. It's not just art.
Speaker D:Even if. Even if it's not whether it's art related or not.
Speaker B:Well, thank you. I appreciate it. This is. This is. This is an incredible space. And. And thank you all for doing this.
Speaker A:We look forward to having you back soon. And Arnold Ogden, if people want to get in touch with you about your organization, if they want to volunteer, if they want to donate, if they want.
Speaker B:To help me on social media. No.
Speaker A:How do you hold you?
Speaker B:Wichita fallsarts.org is and it's just Aogden O G D E N@wichita fallsarts.org yeah.
Speaker C:No, you went from an easy to spell last name to a tough one.
Speaker B:I know I should just change it to Ann probably, but. No, just I'm around. I'm here. We're downtown. We're right across from the Y. I'm there all the time. Just holler at me. You can get me. Call one of them.
They know how to get me.
Speaker A:Yeah, we can get you in touch.
Speaker B:Get you also, I saw you at Office Depot like two months ago, sir.
Speaker A:You did?
Speaker B:Don't act like you did. I probably didn't have any makeup on. So you didn't recognize me.
Speaker A:Oh, yes, yes, yes. I remember now. Yes. Okay.
Speaker B:I haven't seen her. Where is she? I'm not dead. I'm here. I'm just busy.
Speaker A:Well, I am, too.
Speaker C:I mean, he's trying to be dramatic.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker C:Haven't seen you in ages.
Speaker A:I sleep like four hours a night, you know, and usually hanging upside down.
Speaker B:Do you have a doctor for that? Maybe.
Speaker A:I take pills, but they don't seem to help, you know, Again, thank you, Ann, for being here. Appreciate it. We're going to take a break here, Morgan, to write Textilema on the way right after this. Stay tuned.
Hey, welcome back to Get It Right Texoma with the trio, Mike, Terry and Trey. Glad to have you here. And we want to thank Ann, Arnold Ogden for taking time with us.
Very good interview, a lot of good information and will be back with us very soon here on. On the. On the podcast. Moving on here, Kamala Harris looks altered in a speech she gave this week. Trey, what did you witness?
Speaker C:I saw a clip of her giving a speech. I believe it was at a college. And see if you can pull it up. And you know how she was really cackling a lot for a long time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then when she made that presidential run, that kind of stuff kind of went away. And you didn't see the cackle. You saw a lot more seriousness. I don't know if it was because people were focusing on it.
I think it might have been that one up there. But she got to where she was doing the speech and she. I don't. I don't want to say she was drunk, obviously.
I don't know what she was, but she appeared to be inebriated or altered in some way. And this isn't. I'm not being funny about this. I'm not being haha or anything like that. It was. It was very strange.
Speaker A:I see. I. I'm not. I don't know what to make of her on this stuff.
Speaker C:Well, she didn't do. She did not do this when she was on the campaign trail for president.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:The. The laughing at herself, the cackling, the, the weird effect that was not in place.
So either something is different because she was like this before she ran for president.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That short period of time. She did not. And now she's back to it. So I, I don't. I don't know if she has a substance problem. I, I don't know. And I don't want to throw that.
I don't want to say she does. But what I'm saying is there was a period of time when she did not act like she did before, and now she's acting again.
Speaker A:Well, I will tell you a reason why. I will tell you what I.
Part of what I think may be going on with her is also, you lose a race like that, the wind gets sucked out of your sails big time. Sure. And I think maybe the reality is starting to set in that her own party doesn't even want her.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, I think that's true. But. But there's something. There's something going on there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I don't know if she listened to coaching while she was running for president.
Speaker A:Could be.
Speaker C:Or if she took something while she was running for president or if she didn't take something while she was running for president. You know, there's been a lot of speculation over the years that she's a pretty heavy drinker. A lot of speculation.
And I don't know if maybe the time she was running for president, they kind of kept that away from her.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I don't. I don't know. I'm not, I'm. I'm not trying to say anything, but it's not funny to me. It's. It's sad.
There's something going on there and I don't know what it is.
Speaker A:Well, I think the reality.
Speaker C:I don't. I don't like it because as a human being, I. She's a human being and I don't like it.
Speaker A:The reality for her, and I don't know if she's. Surely this conversation has already come up in her inner circle.
Whatever that's made whoever that's made up of that the Democratic Party is going to move on from her.
Speaker C:Oh, sure.
Speaker A:She will not be back in 28.
Speaker C:I don't think there's any, I think there's almost a zero chance of that.
Speaker A:They're going to move on and I think they're going to have to move on from not only her, but Gavin Newsom and the players that they've had up to this point in the last, you know, decade or 12 years or whatever. They're going to have to move on from them. And she's one of them. They will definitely be moving on from. No question about that Brushing scam.
This came out. There was a post from the Wichita Falls pd.
Speaker D:Yeah, I have an opinion on that.
Speaker A:Yeah, the, the brushings.
Speaker C:What's your opinion?
Speaker D:Well, the QR code. Okay, first of all, this isn't. Is it possible that you could lose all your stuff and, or, you know, get copied?
Yeah, but it's such a, there's more to the story when you get a QR code. A QR code is basically just a URL, a web address.
Speaker C:It takes you to a link.
Speaker D:Right. And, and, and that would be no different than if you click on an email.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:The same thing. It's just that the URL, the web address you go to normally requires an additional step.
When you hear of these nightmares of somebody clicking on a link and suddenly something magically happens and you've lost your data, you've been crypto jacked or whatever. It's. No, there's more to it than that.
You have to then like normally the click scams that are happening is they're trying to get, they're doing a phishing campaign. P H I S a P H I S A S H I N G.
But anyway, what that means is, is they're trying to get information and all it, it's usually like your Microsoft account or your email password or whatever. And then you, once you've done that, then there's, there's some things that can happen.
But if you, even if you click on something or scan a QR code, it is not as dangerous as what everybody thinks. Now, I don't recommend it. Right.
Speaker C:Well. And I think what the problem is, though, people are so easily sucked in. Curiosity killed the cat. And I think, I think that's why they're trying to.
Right.
Speaker D:But they're.
Speaker C:So in other words, the scam is if you get a package in.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:And there's something in the package but you don't know who sent you the package, there's no. There's no sender information on it except for a QR code.
Speaker A:You didn't order it.
Speaker C:You didn't order it. You showed up, you go, oh, well, the curiosity a lot of people is.
Speaker D:There'S a QR code.
Speaker C:Click on that. And then it's like, oh, fill out your name. Fill out your. You know, where. Where was the package sent to?
What I'm telling you is there's a lot of people from a psychological standpoint who develop these things, right? So, yes, maybe just simply clicking that QR code won't do anything.
Speaker D:Correct.
Speaker A:But you have to take another step.
Speaker C:What they'll do is they'll prompt you and say, okay, oh, you got you this. Okay, well, what's your address? What's your name? What's your phone number? You know, so we can get this information from you.
Speaker A:There's something, there's something's happening a lot on social media, Facebook in particular. Here you'll see a story, and you click on the link to the story, and all of a sudden you get this big warning on your phone.
Oh, your iPhone's been infected. And what they're trying to do is, right, they're trying to get you to click on yet another link.
Speaker C:Hey, hey, hey, watch the language, Terry.
Speaker A:They're trying to get you to click on another link that will then take you somewhere else where your information could be compromised or where they're trying to get you to give up.
Speaker C:What Terry's saying is just because you scan something doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna be compromised. But the problem is you got to be careful. If you scan something and they say, hey, what's your name?
Speaker A:Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker C:What's your information? Drop the phone, throw it in the trap, you know, throw it in the lake. Whatever you have to do, stop it.
Speaker A:Yeah, just.
Speaker D:But I'm just.
Speaker C:Don't like curiosity. The biggest thing is don't let curiosity take over.
Speaker D:Stop what you're doing and look at the situation, and especially if it's technology related. Come see us. Right? Or whatever.
Speaker C:Call Terry on his home phone. It doesn't matter for 3:00 in the morning. Yeah.
Speaker D:But anyway, the point is, 1-800-tech-guy, it. It is this story, this. When you, when people are. It's kind of clickbait in a way, because it's not the complete story. It's overhyped.
But it is important.
Speaker C:That's why we're trying to. We're trying to dwell. That's our job exactly. To take.
Take something that may be a little overhyped and dispel it down, but let you know that there still is some potential there. But you got to be careful.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:So don't, don't panic in all cases.
If you think, if you've got some indication, you got an email, you got whatever, that suddenly your MasterCard has been charged or your checking account or this, you've paid a bill and whatever, don't just stop. Because doing any panic at that moment is not going to do anything.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Wait a minute. May send you down the wrong path.
Speaker D:Exactly.
Speaker C:So drop, drop and roll. I mean, stop, drop and talk to somebody who does something.
Speaker D:Sorry, I went back to my thing. It professional. And. And just to be fair, not gonna.
I'm not disparaging your, you know, your son or your daughter who's, you know, a teenager supposedly. No, no, no. Don't. Please don't just go literally get.
Speaker C:Talk to a friend.
Speaker D:Yeah. Because they. They are. Yeah. They're not experienced, by the way.
Speaker C:I. I don't. I'm just gonna throw this in. I know it's not local, but I heard there's gonna be a Mr. Gaddy's in town now.
Speaker D:There is.
Speaker A:They opened yesterday.
Speaker C:I think Mr. Gaddy's was my favorite pizza for so many years.
Speaker A:Yeah, they're in the wild.
Speaker C:Luigi's is my favorite pizza and probably still will be. But as far as the pizza chains go, Mr. Gaddy's was my favorite pizza. I'd be interested.
Speaker A:They're inside the Walmart on Larch Road. You know, some old things are coming back. We got Mr. Gaddy's back. Bell's department store is coming back.
They're moving into the old dirt cheap location, what used to be Hastings, you know, and I guess Kmart before that.
Speaker C:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:Way back in the day. They're moving into that building on Southwest Parkway. And so some things are.
And that we could just get, you know, Shaky's Pizza back and, you know, Schlitz beer and I don't know what else. What else can we get back? What's. What's out there that could come back?
Speaker D:Chick fil A's. I know it's specific to Chick fil A, but they're. Carrot salad. They had.
Speaker A:Oh, that's. That's coming back.
Speaker D:No, it's not. It needs to.
Speaker A:Oh. Oh.
Speaker C:I would. I would definitely not support carrot salad of anybody.
Speaker D:It was good, though. Oh, wow.
Speaker C:And it's funny because people always told me because I have really good eyesight. I know. I'm wearing glasses now. Yeah, I lost it over. But for years I always had really good eyesight and still do dark and long distance and stuff.
And people go, you must eat a lot of carrots. Like, nope, don't like them. No, we're done.
Speaker A:All right, guys, we're done. Thank you so much for being with us here for this episode of Get It Right, Texoma.
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LPSweet.com is the website on Facebook. Lollipop Sweet Shop. L O L L I E Lolli and pop Sweet Shop on Facebook. So, guys, take care. Thank you again for being with us.
We want to again thank Ann Arnold Ogden for being with us as a guest today. And we will see you later. Take care. We'll see you down the road next time. It.
